can anyone give me a good reason the USA would rob Kova but not Golovkin?

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  • Curt Henning
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    #61
    Originally posted by future hendrixx
    brilliant meme!

    maybe you could do one about canelo and jacobs

    before jacobs fight-golovkin fans "canelos fight night is 180 plus...hes a MW...its a fair fight"

    after jacobs fight-golovkin fans "jacobs was 180 pllus...golovkin was fighting a cruiser in there"

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      #62
      Because it's never a "USA vs ___" thing. It's a money thing. Go watch the Hooker vs Perez fight on the undercard of Kovalev vs Ward. Hooker is a Roc Nation fighter. That tells you all you need to know.

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        #63
        Originally posted by ////
        Because it's never a "USA vs ___" thing. It's a money thing. Go watch the Hooker vs Perez fight on the undercard of Kovalev vs Ward. Hooker is a Roc Nation fighter. That tells you all you need to know.
        yea because Hooker is a future superstar...

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          #64
          Originally posted by ////
          Because it's never a "USA vs ___" thing. It's a money thing. Go watch the Hooker vs Perez fight on the undercard of Kovalev vs Ward. Hooker is a Roc Nation fighter. That tells you all you need to know.
          i dont have to go watch it..i watched the night of the fights....i remember it well...that sort of stuff happens all of the time all over the world with every promotional outfit

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            #65
            Originally posted by Curt Henning
            if the US judges were blatantly trying to rob kovalev why wouldnt they at least give him a card to make it look "not so obvious"?

            they werent trying to do anything..like i said...u have 3 guys standing at ringside from 3 different points of view...who arent listening to comentating....and arent seeing replays or the angles we are seeing at home

            ward was putting in body work and lampley wasnt even mentioning it....roy or max( i cant remember which one it was) had to point it out after a nice body shot

            wards "prestige" is greatly oversold in this argument because people need it for the sake of holding their argument.....where was wards "prestige" when golovkin ducked? i always used that argument when golovkins fans defending the duck...i said "wards name is prestigious in boxing...it commands respect...everybody in boxing knows ward and a win over him does something for you"...but golovkins fans insisted that it didnt....that it didnt mean much and he wasnt relevant.......which is why i have a difficult time taking golovkin apologists seriously
            Quoted for truth.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Curt Henning
              i dont have to go watch it..i watched the night of the fights....i remember it well...that sort of stuff happens all of the time all over the world with every promotional outfit
              Yep and it's the promotional outfit not the USA. The judges were clearly receiving some compensation from Roc. That fight wasn't even close.

              It was clear which way the main event would go if it was close.

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                #67
                Originally posted by ////
                Yep and it's the promotional outfit not the USA. The judges were clearly receiving some compensation from Roc. That fight wasn't even close.

                It was clear which way the main event would go if it was close.
                kovalev is an HBO fighter and top 5 p4p guy too...you act as if kovalevy was a poor darlys perez here or something...lol...ur out of touch with reality..kovalev was a champion...this was a fight between two top 5 p4p guys...not a prospect of a promotional company put in there with a "guy".....completely different

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Curt Henning
                  we saw pac get KTFO by marquez. but the people still clamored for pac/floyd...we saw tsyon ko'd but tyson/evander was still huge years later....morales beaten by zahir but the people still wanted morales/pac

                  so if the US judges robbed golovkin on the cards wouldnt it stand that golovkin would have a robbery claim and the canelo fight would still be legit?

                  wouldnt the US fighter danny jacobs, a cancer survivor, have his profile raised greatly? "danny the american boy survivor beats the unstoppable EE force"....thats a pretty good tagline no? that rasied jacobs profile very much.....great for US morale right?

                  now on the otherhand...nobody was watching kovalev/ward cept the diehards.. "ward aint relevant..nobody cares guy cant sell out in his hometown....nobody knows who ward is" the golovkin fans shouted for over a year......so what reason would the US judges have to rob kovalev in favor of ward? theres no real money in it....ward isnt a star....it doesnt make sense

                  im looking for one legit reason the US judges would rob Kovalev but not rob golovkin when they had a golden opportunity....can anyone gi ve me one?
                  Ward was paid 5 millions for that fight. Roc Nation was losing money. They invested heavy on him.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by _Maxi
                    Ward was paid 5 millions for that fight. Roc Nation was losing money. They invested heavy on him.
                    you have any financial records or proof? or is that just more speculation on roc nations finances? you have a source? i havent heard roc say they are losing money on ward...in fact they are doing a rematch on a fight they lost money on? thats odd....oh well....

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Curt Henning
                      you have any financial records or proof? or is that just more speculation on roc nations finances? you have a source? i havent heard roc say they are losing money on ward...in fact they are doing a rematch on a fight they lost money on? thats odd....oh well....
                      The purse for both fighters was 2 million. Reasonable for a fight with 160k buys.

                      Roc Nation paid Ward an extra 3 millions. For nothing? nah.
                      Do the math.

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