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  • Metho_4u
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    #71
    Originally posted by bigdramashow
    say what you want only one of them has an 'L' on their record...
    Well, he took a risk and it didn't work out, when's your buttlovekin gonna grow some b@lls and rematch jacobs? Oh yeah, I forgot 4 or 5 fights which = never lol. Don't worry, your boy will have an L real soon.

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    • Metho_4u
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      #72
      Originally posted by JASON SHAW
      UM WALTERS WAS COMING OFF AN ALMOST 400 DAY LAYOFF YOU CASUAL BUM
      Walters' own fault

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        #73
        Originally posted by metho_4u
        walters' own fault
        how could it be his fault when his crooked promoter refused to offer him any other fights for almost 400 days? Typical casual

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          #74
          Originally posted by SniXSniPe
          Here we go ahead, Shadoww with the ******ed posts. You actually, like seriously, posted odds as a way of comparing fighters

          Is this for real?

          I don't even have Lomachenko #1 P4P. He's in my top 5, and just about everyone else.

          You must be on /suicide mode the more Lomachenko keeps winning
          1st BETTING odds are the PERFECT example to use. People are not just TALKING but ACTUALLY backing it up with $$$$.

          NO ONE felt Walters had a chance since he was such a HUGE underdog.

          Here's how it breaks down...

          Lomachenko over Walters
          -900
          90% probability of winning


          Crawford over Gamboa
          -210
          68.75% probability of winning


          2nd you think Loma would be a huge favorite over Mikey Garcia??? I wouldn't be surprised if Mikey is favored.

          I'll take the CASINO'S advice and odds over some hacks opinion on BS. EVERY DAY and ALL DAY!

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          • Metho_4u
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            #75
            Originally posted by JASON SHAW
            how could it be his fault when his crooked promoter refused to offer him any other fights for almost 400 days? Typical casual
            Dude, he was offered the fight vs lomachenko in JUNE!

            It is worth noting that this fight initially fell through when Walters initially wanted a $1 million purse of his own. Walters turned down a career-high payday of $550,000 to face Lomachenko in June, and Vasyl wound up fighting (and knocking out) Rocky Martinez. The Jamaican also didn’t see Lomachenko’s wager, that if Walters were to beat him he’d give him $300,000 from his own purse, as something to take seriously.

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              #76
              Originally posted by SniXSniPe
              Here we go ahead, Shadoww with the ******ed posts. You actually, like seriously, posted odds as a way of comparing fighters

              Is this for real?

              I don't even have Lomachenko #1 P4P. He's in my top 5, and just about everyone else.

              You must be on /suicide mode the more Lomachenko keeps winning
              Cool your not a LOMATARD then. But did you even READ the article??? He might be the best down the road but we can't give him CREDIT for fights that haven't even HAPPENED yet??? Sure he looked AWESOME against Sosa.

              But against the best he won't be able to have an idiot just keep stalking him and letting him set-up, walk into his combos, he then steps back and resets up again in another part of the ring, said idiot walks back into another barrage of combos. Rinse and repeat...He set traps up ALL night and Sosa kept taking the bait like this

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                #77
                Originally posted by techliam
                So you use the judges scorecards (opinions) as a basis for your own personal assessment of a fighter?

                This type of logic I really don't understand. If you thought Ward lost, then you can't have him as the best fighter on the planet. P4P is all personal assessment.
                The judges opinions are what counts which is why Loma has an official loss. You must consider victories no matter what. Resumes and skill is what P4P is all about. Even if Ward didnt get the win he would fall to #2 while Kovalev would be #1 Loma is top 10 for sure but when it comes to top notch competition Ward is miles ahead of Loma and that is just a fact

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Godsfly
                  it's the boxing writers desperately trying to force this. from comparisons to mayweather to prematurely putting the guy at p4p 1.

                  loma doesn't need this crap. he's an amazing talent and can freaking pave his own way.
                  I see it this way as well.

                  Good talent but guy needs seasoning.

                  People forget he's already taken an L to Salido.

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                  • techliam
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by jonnyc420
                    The judges opinions are what counts which is why Loma has an official loss. You must consider victories no matter what. Resumes and skill is what P4P is all about. Even if Ward didnt get the win he would fall to #2 while Kovalev would be #1 Loma is top 10 for sure but when it comes to top notch competition Ward is miles ahead of Loma and that is just a fact
                    P4P is your own personal assessment. There is no objectivity to it, there's no use pretending there is.

                    If you disagree with the judges assessment of Ward/Kovalev, then how can you put Ward at the top?

                    The bolded above is the major reason why your view of P4P isn't going to get much respect. You don't validate your own views with other peoples views - especially if those views directly contradict your own..

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                    • Godsfly
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                      Gamboa was tiny for Crawford. Take that name away due to size, just like GGG does not get credit for Brook, and all Crawford has left on his resumé is Victor Postol. I would definitely take wins over GRJ and Walters over just a win over Postol. Even if you put Postol on the same level as GRJ and Walters, which is iffy, it's still two good wins compared to just one for Crawford.
                      take gamboa away? due to size? when they fought at 135 the same weight that gamboa has currently fought at? you're delusional. take that win away because you have an agenda in other words. gamboa has better wins then sosa, walters, and russell put together. he has a prime win against salido (the same guy who beat lomachenko clearly) not to mention postol was a unification fight after he destroyed freaking Matthysse. also u know nothing about heart. it's not like the old days anymore. when a fighter quits he quits. mentally weak, something is wrong. thats why i give russell more credit then sosa or walters. both are quitters. russell was outclassed hurt but did not give up. burns beltran have all done things AFTER their losses against crawford increasing their rep. burns has somehow managed to fight to a unification match TODAY for goodness sakes. how could i care about walters when a guy like burns fought with a broken jaw for 12 rounds? you think i give a DAMN about walters? not only that but crawford is fighting yet another gold medalist in felix diaz. (thats 2 gold medalist) diaz i felt beat peterson comfortably and is very talented.

                      when u put things into prospective how could u not have someone like crawford ahead of lomachenko? it's ******. guys just done way more and proven himself against better comp.


                      even thurman lomachenko is close. no one has to troll and do this with lomachenko, guy is talented. he cane pave his own way vs fan boys and fanboy troll writers grouping together to force him in a position where he has no business even being right now.

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