Dude! Lmao, it's over...about 90% of people saw and know Manny lost the fight. Why do the few floyd haters just continue to obsess over this like it was some kind of great injustice? I believe it's called denial, also delusional. You need to hang out with fuggin spoon more often and watch that **** in real time, slow mo, backwards and even turn the TV sideways and see how you score it. Manny lost, the end.
Mayweather from Genaro to Chavez vs Lomachenko Compubox H2H Comparison
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Ohhhh, so compubox is ok as long as it's for your guy right? Ok cool, got it. Thanks for your excuses yet again.ah ok. yes i dont follow compubox so thats where your post went wrong. compubox is not accurate at all and has been disproven. it was disproven in ward-kovalev as well. kovalev landed far more than ward. even if you count a lot of wards shots that were prob illegal the numbes were still off. also none of this percentage stuff matters to me either because what matters is who lands the better punches. if a guy lands 1 out of 1 punch thats better than a guy who lands 10 out of 100? 100 percent connect rate to only 10 percent connect rate! we have a winner? just a bad way of looking at things. no need to complicate things. who landed more? kov. whose punches were harder, cleaner, and flusher? imo kov. maybe you think those lil hold and hit body shots were amazing but to me they werent.Comment
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Wow, that was quite the unbiased post. After lomachencho is a little older and slows down a bit, we'll see how good he is. He got the potential to be great, but people like you will just make fans hate him.Comment
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KEmet is in africa...arabs invaded just like the ottomon empire, turks, Rome, etc.This is what anybody, from any race says to delusional Afrocentric people who make ****** claims with no scientific basis.
There is an Egyptian dude on youtube with a channel name WeWuzKangz cause he's tired of black Americans who are descendants of West African ******, claiming his country.
Kemet was NOT the only great empire in africa.....Mali, The Songhay, Congo, Kush, Punt, Ashanti, Mauritania, etc had great empires before invasions so i never understood why people clinge to Egypt....you wouldnt know this because you never studied african history pre-invasions
all black americans are not JUST descendants of west africa bro...Many have eastern african, southern, central ancestry as well.
Kemetic people, Egyptians they depicted themselves as dark skin africans to medium brown
read a book...the ancient egyptians pre-arab invasions migrated from central africa where the Nile begins by the Congo....look it up
the idea of race itself was created by europeans with no scientific authenticity to justify the bs they did to people across the planet...race does not exist bro...you're not very educated are you?
if it makes you feel better to insult me, go right ahead....makes your insecurities more evident
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KEmet is in africa...arabs invaded just like the ottomon empire, turks, Rome, etc.
Kemet was NOT the only great empire in africa.....Mali, The Songhay, Congo, Kush, Punt, Ashanti, Mauritania, etc had great empires before invasions so i never understood why people clinge to Egypt....you wouldnt know this because you never studied african history pre-invasions
all black americans are not JUST descendants of west africa bro...Many have eastern african, southern, central ancestry as well.
Kemetic people, Egyptians they depicted themselves as dark skin africans to medium brown
read a book...the ancient egyptians pre-arab invasions migrated from central africa where the Nile begins by the Congo....look it up
the idea of race itself was created by europeans with no scientific authenticity to justify the bs they did to people across the planet...race does not exist bro...you're not very educated are you?
if it makes you feel better to insult me, go right ahead....makes your insecurities more evident
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I actually made a post WEEKS ago saying how West Africans should be proud of the Ghanian and Mali empires, and how Timbuktu would have been a sight to behold back in the day.
Africa is the most genetically diverse continent in the world; West Africans look nothing like East Africans, and African tribes found in the south like the Khoi San, look nothing like either of those.
"Africa" is a social-construct - it's a name given to a land mass by humans. It doesn't mean that every population native to the continent was "black."
Egypt lies on the mediterranean and is close to Sumeria - the cradle of civilization.
It was referred to as "Kemet" because of the black soils found in the area after floods. LOL not because "the people were black."
The Egyptians CLEARLY DEPICTED themselves as different from the Nubians, who they depicted as having features of West-Africans.
If you go back far enough, everyone is related to everyonee.
But there is absolutely NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE to believe that the descendants of ****** from West Africa were any more genetically related to Ancient Egyptians, than the "Middle Eastern" people who populate the country today. Egypt was closer to "Arabic" countries and middle-eastern Caucasian people than the West Africans.
So - why don't blacks ever talk about Ghanian empire? Or Mali Empire? Why is it only "WE WUZ KANGS N SHEET". Or what's even MORE HILARIOUS - is to hear them claim than they were the Moors.
It's HILARIOUS! I literally laugh when I see these types of people.
But if it makes them feel better about themselves? Why not, right? Whatever keeps them from engaging in violent crime.Comment
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Loma's total landed per round should be 23.1 not 16.9 (per the link you gave). Just as aside also if I'm gonna use compubox at all the stat I always think is most relevant is one that they don't usually give you, but which can be relatively easily calculated - the ratio of punches landed per round to opponent landed per round.A lot of people were saying it's not accurate to compare the older Mayweather to a prime Loma so lets see how they're stats compare from Mayweather at 130. Instead of doing his first 9 fights I did from Genaro Hernandez to the Jesus Chavez fight since the level of opposition would be higher to make it fair. Manfredy isn't included because his stats aren't available. These are total punches, not split into jabs and power.
TPR: Total Thrown Per Round, TLR: Total Landed Per Round, OTPR: Opponent Total Thrown Per Round, OTLR: Opponent Total Landed Per Round
Mayweather 221/412 (54%) / Genaro 103/314 (31%) 8 rounds TPR: 51.5, TLR: 27.6, OTPR: 39.3, OLPR: 12.9
Mayweather 335/593 (57%) / Rios 155/423 (37%) 12 rounds TPR: 49.4, TLR: 27.9, OTPR: 35.25, OLPR: 12.9
Mayweather 209/385 (54%) / Juuko 147/488 (30%) 9 rounds TPR: 42.8, TLR: 23.2, OTPR: 54.2, OLPR: 16.3
Mayweather 220/346 (64%) / Gerena 99/308 (32%) 7 rounds TPR: 49.4, TLR: 31.4, OTPR: 44, OLPR: 14.1
Mayweather 244/567 (43%) / Vargas 159/505 (31%) 12 rounds TPR: 47.25, TLR: 20.3, OTPR: 42.1, OLPR: 13.25
Mayweather 287/669 (43%) / Augustus 108/526 (21%) 9 rounds TPR: 74.3, TLR: 31.9, OTPR: 58.4, OLPR: 12
Mayweather 220/424 (53%) / Corrales 60/205 (29%) 10 rounds TPR: 42.4, TLR: 22, OTPR: 20.5, OLPR: 6
Mayweather 242/520 (46%) / Hernandez 172/676 (25%) 12 rounds TPR: 43.3, TLR: 20.2, OTPR: 56.3, OLPR: 14.3
Mayweather 197/456 (43%) / Chavez 182/925 (20%) 9 rounds TPR: 50.6, TLR: 21.8, OTPR: 102.8, OPLR: 20.2
Mayweather
Overall TPR: 50.1
Overall TLR: 25.4
Overall Opp. TPR: 50.3
Overall Opp. TLR: 13.5
Overall Connect %: 50.7
Overall Opp. Connect %: 28.4
Overall +/-: 22.3
Lomachenko
Overall TPR: 61.9
Overall TLR: 16.9
Overall Opp. TPR: 47
Overall Opp. TLR: 7.9
Overall Connect %: 37.5
Overall Opp. Connect %: 16.8
Overall +/-: 20.7
Detailed Loma stats: http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweathe...arison--115530
Who lands more and gets hit less?
Overall TLR: Floyd + 8.5
Overall Opp. TLR: Loma + 5.6
Overall Connect %: Floyd + 13.2
Overall Opp. Connect %: Loma + 11.6
Overall +/-: Floyd +1.6
Loma total score: 17.2
Floyd total score: 23.3
In these categories Floyd wins 3-2. These stats show that PBF threw more and was more accurate than Money but got hit quite a lot more than Money or Loma. If you include punches thrown Loma has the advantage.
Just at a rough calculation Loma's ratio is about 3:1 which is higher I think than any other recent championship level fighter AFAIK (Kovalev and Golovkin for example - prior to their most recent fights maxed out at around 2.5:1)Last edited by Citizen Koba; 04-14-2017, 01:13 PM.Comment
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well you mentioned some nonsense about how pac went backwards when talking about why floyd won. you certainly arent going to be talking about punches since you will lose that one every time. oh cept that right hand in round 1. that right hand in round 1 was so good it won floyd 10 rounds! 10-2! schooled! pac was gun-shy! the guy coming forward and landing the cleaner shots and forcing floyd to hold and bend over nonstop was gun-shy. the guy throwing arm-punches, clinching, and bending over was not though.
let me guess you studied the fight in slow motion like spoon23 did?

I WAR ROOTING FOR PACQUIAO TO BEAT FLOYD!
in no way I wanted floyd to win but he did that. He won. again i was rooting for pacquiao to win. Ask any of the floyd fans here.Comment
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Well, I'm not saying it's 100% accurate, however, it's more than "1 old guy". There are 2 people (1 for each fighter obviously) and each has to either have been a boxer themselves, or have had to cover fights at ringside in some form, so they have to understand the sport very well, they are then trained for 6 months watching dvds of fights and counting punches to check accuracy. Once they feel they are satisfactory, they will go to live fights, work undercards, while still having someone else count along with them, do its pretty extensive. Again, is it 100%? No, and there's no way it really can be.Comment
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