But Crawford gets a lot of credit for Gamboa?
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Hardly anyone gives him credit for it. People say he was "exposed" and act as if it's a negative on his resume.
Personally, I think there's a a big difference between established fighters and long time champs fighting undersized guys in huge mismatches vs the little known fighter talking on a smaller, but undefeated fighter in a competitive fight.Last edited by Redd Foxx; 04-14-2017, 12:01 AM.
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Originally posted by Redd Foxx View PostHardly anyone gives him credit for it.Originally posted by Sadiqkingofko View PostI'm not sure anyone praises the Gamboa win
As much as I don't like Golovkin's weak resume (it's not on the level of his status), Bud's opposition is pale in comparison, the only reason why Bud is higher on my p4p list is because he's younger which means he has more time to develop his career and potentialLast edited by g27region; 04-14-2017, 12:33 AM.
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Originally posted by g27region View PostNo, it's not something I'm making up. I was arguing with posters about Crawford's resume in the past, and they kept mentioning Postol and Gamboa like they're some elite wins.
As much as I don't like Golovkin's weak resume (it's not on the level of his status), Bud's opposition is pale in comparison, the only reason why Bud is higher on my p4p list is because he's younger which means he has more time to develop his career and potential
We've got a lot of talented new guys that are building their resumes so if they get a little extra credit in the p4p because they pass the eye test, that's understandable. Rigo's presence in the p4p in 2017 is almost entirely based on the eye test at this point because his one good win is looking worse every time Donaire fights.
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Gamboa and Crawford were fighting in the same weight class when they fought. Gamboa had just moved up from 130 and had won an interm belt at 135. Khan was fighting as a welterweight when he challenged Canelo at a weight limit of 155. The complainers said Khan was moving up two weight classes but it was really only one weight class plus a pound. Brook was a welterweight who moved up to middleweight to fight GGG. Brook said he had been killing himself to make 147. He outweighed GGG at the weigh in and in the ring. Still the GGG haters screamed bloody murder about him picking on poor tiny little Brook.
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Originally posted by Redd Foxx View PostI think Postol is more talented than anyone on Golovkin's resume, though Jacobs is close. Neither of those two have stellar resumes but look who else is on the P4P list... We've got Kovalev who beat old Hopkins and shot Pascal. Rigo who beat 1 decent guy once. Loma is looking great and has a few decent wins but still lacks a great win, just as Crawford and Golovkin do.
We've got a lot of talented new guys that are building their resumes so if they get a little extra credit in the p4p because they pass the eye test, that's understandable. Rigo's presence in the p4p in 2017 is almost entirely based on the eye test at this point because his one good win is looking worse every time Donaire fights.
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Originally posted by Redd Foxx View PostI think Postol is more talented than anyone on Golovkin's resume, though Jacobs is close
I don't mind some people hyping up Postol as elite win as long as I'm not involved in discussion because I've predicted the result of Crawford/Postol before the fight happened. It was too obvious to me. I've never thought of Postol as legitimate threat
A fighter with non-existent amateur background can't outbox a fighter with solid amateur experience
A fighter with 40% KO ratio doesn't have a lucky punch chance either
Danny Jacobs is a hell of a fighter. He doesn't have Matthysse scalp in the resume, yeah, but when you punch as hard as Jacobs, you have a chance even if your skills are limited. And he has some skills on top of that
If Postol is better than Jacobs it means he's better than Golovkin too. Because Jacobs was Golovkin's equal when they fought. Damn, I even scored the fight for Jacobs when I've watched it for the first time.
Postol got dominated in one-sided manner. Jacobs had a close fight with the boogeyman and arguably won according to some fans. So Postol can't be better than Jacobs who was as good as Golovkin that nightLast edited by g27region; 04-14-2017, 01:37 AM.
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