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  • #11
    If some people think that I'm trying to discredit Crawford - he's my second favorite fighter in the game right now. I'm just against Gamboa/Crawford, Brook/Golovkin, Khan/Canelo type of fights. Same with Loma/Crawford, that **** doesn't make sense. Jumping up two weight divisions without any kind of acclimatisation is wrong

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    • #12
      Originally posted by g27region View Post
      Man....no way

      I don't mind some people hyping up Postol as elite win as long as I'm not involved in discussion because I've predicted the result of Crawford/Postol before the fight happened. It was too obvious to me. I've never thought of Postol as legitimate threat

      A fighter with non-existent amateur background can't outbox a fighter with solid amateur experience

      A fighter with 40% KO ratio doesn't have a lucky punch chance either

      Danny Jacobs is a hell of a fighter. He doesn't have Matthysse scalp in the resume, yeah, but when you punch as hard as Jacobs, you have a chance even if your skills are limited. And he has some skills on top of that

      If Postol is better than Jacobs it means he's better than Golovkin too. Because Jacobs was Golovkin's equal when they fought. Damn, I even scored the fight for Jacobs when I've watched it for the first time.

      Postol got dominated in one-sided manner. Jacobs had a close fight with the boogeyman and arguably won according to some fans. So Postol can't be better than Jacobs who was as good as Golovkin that night
      Quillin might be just as good a name in his resume.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by considerthis View Post
        Quillin might be just as good a name in his resume.
        And Quillin wasn't eye-injured.

        Jacobs KO'd him in 1 round, Matthysse got Postol in trouble at some points

        That Matthysse win was overrated because Postol pulled off an upset - nobody expected him to win and some fans hopped on that hype train. Not me though.

        Anyway, even if Matthysse is much better it doesn't change anything since it's the only good win in Postol's resume and Jacobs been considered as 2# in the division for much longer, he's more consistent fighter.

        I like Jacobs, I'd even bet on him in Golovkin's rematch - he has a good chance to beat him. But Crawford beats Postol 100 times out of 100
        Last edited by g27region; 04-14-2017, 01:56 AM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by g27region View Post
          Postol got dominated in one-sided manner. Jacobs had a close fight with the boogeyman and arguably won according to some fans. So Postol can't be better than Jacobs who was as good as Golovkin that night
          I respect your opinions on here but needing to compare Postol to Golovkin is a little convoluted. Jacobs played to Golovkin's weakness but I don't see Golovkin being dropped by Mora. Against a majority of other opponents, I see Golovkin doing better (even though I feel he lost to Jacobs).

          People dump on Postol for the purpose of devaluing Crawford. The guy retired Matthysee and made him quit. Losing to Crawford doesn't make you trash. Everyone who's fought Crawford has lost to him. In fact, Postol was the only one of the last 5 who made it to the bell. I see the talents in him. In fact, all the pro Eastern Euro fans were singing his praises but now they trash him because he's a Crawford win (not including you in that group, I know you're an independent thinker).

          We just disagree. That's fine.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by g27region View Post
            And Quillin wasn't eye-injured.

            Jacobs KO'd him in 1 round, Matthysse got Postol in trouble at some points

            Anyway, even if Matthysse is much better it doesn't change anything since it's the only good win in Postol's resume and Jacobs been considered as 2# in the division for much longer, he's more consistent fighter.

            I like Jacobs, I'd even bet on him in Golovkin's rematch - he has a good chance to beat him. But Crawford beats Postol 100 times out of 100
            Yea...if jacobs comes in more confident and moves his hands a bit more, ggg could be in trouble. He'd have to up his own work rate or find a way to slow jacobs down.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
              I see the talents in him. In fact, all the pro Eastern Euro fans were singing his praises but now they trash him because he's a Crawford win (not including you in that group, I know you're an independent thinker).
              Pro eastern euro fans are white americans here. Sometimes black/latin/pro euro fanbases overrate their fighters. Postol might be the case when a fighter got overrated because of his ethnicity and one good win by a certain fanbase

              Before the fight I was thinking it's too early to put the kid on the pedestal but if he can win against Crawford then the hype is deserved. I wasn't having this hype. Just like this new russian fighter at 140 Sergey Lipinets, I don't see nothing special about him and even if he gets one good win I won't hop on the hype train. A fighter has to show some consistency

              Jacobs gave his all in Golovkin's fight. He made me a fan after that performance.

              As a representative of Eastern bloc, I'd trade Postol for Danny in a second, ha ha

              Postol....I remember how Postol was running from Crawford at some points. He didn't make any new fans after that fight

              Originally posted by considerthis View Post
              Yea...if jacobs comes in more confident and moves his hands a bit more, ggg could be in trouble. He'd have to up his own work rate or find a way to slow jacobs down.
              Jacobs was too catious in early rounds so Golovkin took them with ease. But Jacobs lost any respect for Golovkin's power in late rounds. If it wasn't for that slow start he'd win this fight
              Last edited by g27region; 04-14-2017, 02:19 AM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by g27region View Post
                No, it's not something I'm making up. I was arguing with posters about Crawford's resume in the past, and they kept mentioning Postol and Gamboa like they're some elite wins.

                As much as I don't like Golovkin's weak resume (it's not on the level of his status), Bud's opposition is pale in comparison, the only reason why Bud is higher on my p4p list is because he's younger which means he has more time to develop his career and potential
                youre not the only one whos seen it bro. and the thing is the gamboa v crawford size difference was a hell of a lot more noticeable than brook v golovkin. not saying the size difference wasnt big in that one too, but gamboa was like half the size of crawford and he was still lighting him up early on lol

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                • #18
                  It's not the same, many people were picking Gamboa to beat Crawford before the fight and he had experience at the weight unlike Khan and Brook.

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                  • #19
                    Alvarez fought a Cuban amateur champion at the very least doe....

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                    • #20
                      Who even mentions The Gamboa fight?? hell i forgot they fought

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