Comments Thread For: Duva: Request for 'Neutral' Judges for Ward-Kovalev Denied by Ward

[SplitSecond]

Duva defined neutral judges as any judge not from the US or Russia. The fight is in vegas so they have to use Nevada judges, appointed by the commission, who are most likely Americans.

Duva knows this so these comments seem to me to preemptive excuse making in case her man loses. She is making it seem like roc nation is choosing the judges.

Duva said nothing was set, but she wanted to have the conversation.

Nevada have made exceptions in other fights.

The only reason that last paragraph exists is because you've listened to Ward, and no, her point is obviously that these judges are more likely to be biased towards Ward.

I'll put it like this, in the first fight although I do think Ward could have won and thus have no problem that he won, looking at it the way the judges scored there is no way Ward should have won. There was a clear bias there when all the judges inexplicably gave rd 10 to Ward to give him his 1 point win.

[The Big Dunn]

Duva said nothing was set, but she wanted to have the conversation.

Nevada have made exceptions in other fights.

The only reason that last paragraph exists is because you've listened to Ward, and no, her point is obviously that these judges are more likely to be biased towards Ward.

I'll put it like this, in the first fight although I do think Ward could have won and thus have no problem that he won, looking at it the way the judges scored there is no way Ward should have won. There was a clear bias there when all the judges inexplicably gave rd 10 to Ward to give him his 1 point win.

I think her point is utterly ridiculous.

If I were to make the argument that 3 white judges were more likely to be biased for her fighter because she is white you would dismiss that immediately and cry that I was playing the race card.

I mind you these same American judges Nevada appoints have given non Americans terrible cards over the years- the clown that gave Canelo 114-114 with Floyd was the most recent.

All of them giving round 10 is not an indication of bias. Its an indication that they felt Ward won. I didn't. I gave that round to Kov and thus the fight

Both teams can make preemptive bias claims, whether it be racial or nationalistic, to try and sway fans. If we consider one we should consider both.

[SplitSecond]

I think her point is utterly ridiculous.

If I were to make the argument that 3 white judges were more likely to be biased for her fighter because she is white you would dismiss that immediately and cry that I was playing the race card.

I mind you these same American judges Nevada appoints have given non Americans terrible cards over the years- the clown that gave Canelo 114-114 with Floyd was the most recent.

All of them giving round 10 is not an indication of bias. Its an indication that they felt Ward won. I didn't. I gave that round to Kov and thus the fight

Both teams can make preemptive bias claims, whether it be racial or nationalistic, to try and sway fans. If we consider one we should consider both.

Man... you are full of sh. Americans and ***ing skin color.

[HanzGruber]

Wrong.

Marquez requested 3 non NV judges for fight IV because he got robbed in the other fights.

Not sure why anybody would have an issue with neutral officials? If the fight was in Europe this place would be up in arms if it was 3 Russian judges.

do you know who judged that fight? lol

Adalaide Byrd
Steve Weisfeld
John Keane -- only person to never judge a manny fight out of these 3

[The Big Dunn]

Man... you are full of sh. Americans and ***ing skin color.

I tried to have reasonable discussion with you but that didn't work.

You are a diehard Manny fan so I know where all this is really coming from.

[peplz]

One thing you can trust guys like Steve Kim to do is deliver the news with a biased slant. Its amazing that journalists who so obviously have an agenda like Thomas Hauser, Doug Fischer and the one who wrote this article even get taken seriously. Internet trolling gave these guys careers and also got Donald Trump elected. The most illegitimate people have risen to positions of prominence in this climate...

[chrisJS]

do you know who judged that fight? lol

Adalaide Byrd
Steve Weisfeld
John Keane -- only person to never judge a manny fight out of these 3

You do know that Pacquaio isn't American?

Weisfeld and Keane are NOT Las Vegas judges.

Thank you.

[peplz]

Man... you are full of sh. Americans and ***ing skin color.

As if Americans are the only ones who think about race and skin color. That is a complete and total lie. And you say that as if nationalism is some how better than racism.

[SplitSecond]

I tried to have reasonable discussion with you but that didn't work.

You are a diehard Manny fan so I know where all this is really coming from.

Plz stop. You more than likely only say Kovalev won because Mayweather said it. I'm not that devouted to any man, so what exactly is this connectiom your seeing with me being a fan of pacquiao that correlates with this discussion?

To answer the ****** accusation you made of me and white judges, I wouldn't care if all the judges were say black french canadians. Because this skin color focus is really mostly an american thing, and yes, mostly with the brothas who will openly admit to havimg to side with a brotha because he's a brotha.

Before you call me a racist again, Im african born and mulatto not unlike Andre Ward. I'm simply calling it like I see it unfortunately.

[bojangles1987]

Don't know why anyone would be against neutral judges. Unless of course you don't care about the level playing field, as long as you can get the win, deservedly or not.

Because it's a highly arbitrary criteria that eliminates a huge pool of qualified, competent, respected judges that Nevada already uses. If you start arguing about who is neutral and who is not, then you'll never agree on anything.