Source for Oscar/GBP offer of 15 mill to GGG?

[Eff Pandas]

Got you saying the offer wasn't real for no other evidence then I think it's more then GGG is worth. yet GGG out his own mouth says I want 50/50 his team have proven they are delusional and don't have pulse on what he's worth. He making 2m and turning down 8 digit offers. LMAO

The TS's request was real simple. Yet we are going down this weird LMAO & off topic back & forths at each other rabbithole as no link to this alleged legit offer is out there & is real. 8 digits might make sense. A 50% bump on the minimum realm of "8 digits" doesn't in my eyes.

I have no dog in this fight or more specifically this thread except seeing this alleged $15M offer proved or disapproved. To the point if I'm wrong I got no problem saying well damn that was a legit offer after all & if I'm right I won't be doing some in your face bigdunny while doing a touchdown dance.

I just want the facts. My only allegiance is to the truth with this $15M offer that seems to get throw out by far too many people vs the caliber of sense it makes to me + reliability GBP has with saying things that make sense being pushed upon fans.

[Deletrious]

This whole thread is missing the forest through the trees.

This is no longer relevant because they are negotiating a split.

Loeffler insisted on a split, and Oscar said, no longer offering 15, now we're offering a split.

Somehow, even though that's exactly what Loeffler wanted, the Golovkin hater trolls spun that as a failure on GGG, instead of a negotiation win.

Getting what they wanted?? Lil G loses again! That's literally how dumb most of the crap on this forum becomes when discussing Golovkin.

This is also pointless because ORAL OFFERS ARE NOT BINDING. It doesn't matter if Golovkin accepts it, rejects it or does nothing, if it's not on paper to be signed, it isn't real. The only people who talk about it don't know how contracts work, or spin any information as somehow negative for Golovkin. GBP said flat out if the fight is close they may rematch Chavez instead. That shows you how binding their offer is, not at all.

Watch Bigdummy1 now throw out an 800 word salad worthy of Sarah Palin. If you're smart like me you won't stick around to read it

[Eff Pandas]

Canelo vs Smith sold about 250k and GBP announced 300k. That's not 400ish. Showtime announced 300k PPV buys for Canelo vs Lara.

The fight with Khan was 400ish but Khan is a high profile fighter. Against Angulo, again 300k max. Kirkland I believe was on free HBO.

Okay I have no desire to get into a discussion on the reliability of PPV buys from various sources, but lets cut right to the chase of what I don't believe to be an arguable point.

Canelo is selling MORE PPV's to lesser opponents then GGG does vs his best, most known opponents. Thats the main context & the most important part of my point. If you wanna argue that GGG is doing 900k buys vs Cotto you are gonna have to find someone else to debate that with cuz that is rolling into trolling territory. Canelo is the A side & the A side by a mile.

[Eff Pandas]

And damn sure doesn't prove Oscar is lying.

Man I feel you woke up today with a hardon for off topic nonsense. But please Allah can we quit acting like Oscar isn't filled up with more bs than a two ton rodeo bull? He says nutty sh^t every other day damn near.

Also where is the link TS has been asking for ffs?

[BoxingFan85]

Yup the irony here is somehow Rafael is not creditable source when he says the 8 digit offer was 15m that GGG turned down. but when he says GGG is getting 10m in broke azzz kaza phuk stan the same clowns are not asking for proof of this, a link, or direct quote from Loeffler to confirm it. None of those exist but Dan's word was more then enough to take as gospel for Maxi pad and soul survivor. At least try to be consistent. If fat boy dan lied on GGG then Loeffler needs to speak up. If Oscar told the world in his press conference that GGG has a 8 digit offer that they refuse to accept then Loeffler needs to speak up on it. If they don't they hurt GGG's image and make it seem like all these reports are true and GGG has to answer why he turned that money down

Ok... first, Tom never has given away any fight negotiation details & numbers even before the fight was made.. Tom being C.nt he is, won't even refute anything or try to shame other promoters if they go ahead & tell the media one version of the story.. Remember Oscar/Gomez themselves said they won't negotiate thru the media & it will be behind closed doors.. yet they come out and give statements about the numbers & stuff..
The last person to comment on negotiations/offer should be Golovkin.. His team does(or doesn't do) the job for him, he won't sit through every negotiations himself..

Nobody from GBP says 15mil + these are the terms for the fight/rematch because for all we know it might not even be the money but the other clauses that might be the issue or up for negotiations..

There is no concrete proof that one party is in the right & the others are hesitant to make the fight..

[_Maxi]

Okay I have no desire to get into a discussion on the reliability of PPV buys from various sources, but lets cut right to the chase of what I don't believe to be an arguable point.

Canelo is selling MORE PPV's to lesser opponents then GGG does vs his best, most known opponents. Thats the main context & the most important part of my point. If you wanna argue that GGG is doing 900k buys vs Cotto you are gonna have to find someone else to debate that with cuz that is rolling into trolling territory. Canelo is the A side & the A side by a mile.

Canelo is the A-side, we agree on that.

I made my math and I believe Canelo deserves twice as much money as Golovkin. Not more than that. 67/33 split.

[Eff Pandas]

Canelo is the A-side, we agree on that.

I made my math and I believe Canelo deserves twice as much money as Golovkin. Not more than that. 67/33 split.

Well idk how you arrived upon that number with your math, but yea they seemed to be within the realm of reasonable numbers. I wouldn't be surprised to see the actual numbers in that ballpark give or take.

Or in theory anyway cuz I don't believe the fight will be made for September & by the time this fight gets made I suspect the value of one or both guys will be much different then today.

[koolkc107]

What we have is Oscar saying 8 figures and "2,3, or 4 times his best payday"

Well, 8 figures means at least 10M.

And if 5M is Lil g's best payday then 15M is right there.

The funny thing is when folks ask Loeffler about it, not only does he fail to deny it, but he
ANSWERS THE QUESTION AS IF THE ALLEGATION IS TRUE.

For example, this from the LA Times:

Loeffler, responding to an offer to fight Canelo Alvarez next September while trying to schedule Golovkin’s next fight, provided updates on both situations Wednesday.

Loeffler said he has made a written, undisclosed counteroffer to fight Alvarez after Oscar De La Hoya, Alvarez’s promoter, said late Saturday night that he could pay three-belt middleweight champion Golovkin at least $10 million plus an undisclosed pay-per-view percentage...

...A boxing official unauthorized to comment on financial figures of Golovkin’s Sept. 10 fifth-round technical-knockout triumph over Kell Brook said that bout generated more than 500,000 buys in the U.K.

“A flat fee for a fight is usually given to a fighter or contender who’s clearly the ‘B’ side,” Loeffler told The Times. “My offer back to [Golden Boy] was based on a percentage, just like we saw in the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao agreement.”

There is your smoking gun.

Loeffler DOES NOT DENY the claim that he has such an offer from GBP and AFFIRMS IT by talking about a counter offer which differs in structure from the offer he tacitly acknowledged he has received.

He says FLAT FEE and PERCENTAGE, all the verification anyone should really need.

But, of course, this is NSB...

[_Maxi]

What we have is Oscar saying 8 figures and "2,3, or 4 times his best payday"

Well, 8 figures means at least 10M.

And if 5M is Lil g's best payday then 15M is right there.

The funny thing is when folks ask Loeffler about it, not only does he fail to deny it, but he
ANSWERS THE QUESTION AS IF THE ALLEGATION IS TRUE.

For example, this from the LA Times:

Loeffler, responding to an offer to fight Canelo Alvarez next September while trying to schedule Golovkin’s next fight, provided updates on both situations Wednesday.

Loeffler said he has made a written, undisclosed counteroffer to fight Alvarez after Oscar De La Hoya, Alvarez’s promoter, said late Saturday night that he could pay three-belt middleweight champion Golovkin at least $10 million plus an undisclosed pay-per-view percentage...

...A boxing official unauthorized to comment on financial figures of Golovkin’s Sept. 10 fifth-round technical-knockout triumph over Kell Brook said that bout generated more than 500,000 buys in the U.K.

“A flat fee for a fight is usually given to a fighter or contender who’s clearly the ‘B’ side,” Loeffler told The Times. “My offer back to [Golden Boy] was based on a percentage, just like we saw in the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao agreement.”

There is your smoking gun.

Loeffler DOES NOT DENY the claim that he has such an offer from GBP and AFFIRMS IT by talking about a counter offer which differs in structure from the offer he tacitly acknowledged he has received.

He says FLAT FEE and PERCENTAGE, all the verification anyone should really need.

But, of course, this is NSB...

No, Lloefler never affirms it.

Keep dreaming.

You need the question, and the answer. You only get an answer there, but the question is not written. And even if it's written, it's not a confirmation of anything. He just says he counter offered something. Never explained what that something was.

[koolkc107]

No, Lloefler never affirms it.

Keep dreaming.

You need the question, and the answer. You only get an answer there, but the question is not written. And even if it's written, it's not a confirmation of anything. He just says he counter offered something. Never explained what that something was.

Not dreaming, son.

And all I need is the common sense God gave me.