Source for Oscar/GBP offer of 15 mill to GGG?

[BoxingFan85]

Dan Rafael never said Golovkin was offered 15 millions. He said that Diaz from GBP told him that they had offered 15 millions to Golovkin. Different story.

Well to his credit, he reported what he heard.. All I am saying is, people toggle between when they find his info credible & when they don't..

[bigdunny1]

In the same post I goof on Oscar I goof on Tommy L, but supposedly I only hate Oscar doe lol.

Cmon man I expect more from you than to accuse me of simply being a hater.

The bottom line for me, regardless of who the promoter is, is giving a guy who didn't sell 200k in his first PPV fight nor his 2nd PPV fight $15M/Gtd as the clear B side makes zero sense to me.

So either I say this offer is bs since I've never seen what the TS is asking for & I've asked for or Oscar isn't making a good business decision here. Or maybe I'm simply miscalculating how big this fight is or how much Canelo, Oscar & HBO will be splitting.

I don't care if the offer don't make sense to you. You are basically saying it's a great deal and that Loeffler should of jumped on it. So why didn't he? And unless you can show me where Loeffler or anyone else is saying the offer is lie there is no reason for me question it. Meanwhile Loeffler has been caught in 1 lie after another got mofo's putting out his text messages to expose but Oscar is the questionable one here when NOBODY has said the 8 digit offer isn't real INCLUDING GGG own team. LMAO

[Eff Pandas]

Its funny how people believe Dan Rafael when he says there was 15mil, but did not want to believe him Golovkin was getting 10mil to fight in Kazakhstan..

Fat Dan is reverse Arum. Yesterday he was telling the truth. Today he's lying. But yea this.

And Tommy L doesn't seem to talk specifics very often, for better or worse, but he's changed nothing in how he operates. And Oscar hasn't changed anything...he's still pulling stuff outta his ass to get things going his way as best he can. Hence why I don't believe him to be dumb enough to offer a 200k PPV guy $15M/Gtd.

I mean ffs there is a story up right now where Oscar is saying Canelo vs Chavez Jr is going to be like Morales vs Barrera. Okkkkkkkkkkaaaaaayyyyyyy Oscar.

[BoxingFan85]

Fat Dan is reverse Arum. Yesterday he was telling the truth. Today he's lying. But yea this.

And Tommy L doesn't seem to talk specifics very often, for better or worse, but he's changed nothing in how he operates. And Oscar hasn't changed anything...he's still pulling stuff outta his ass to get things going his way as best he can. Hence why I don't believe him to be dumb enough to offer a 200k PPV guy $15M/Gtd.

I mean ffs there is a story up right now where Oscar is saying Canelo vs Chavez Jr is going to be like Morales vs Barrera. Okkkkkkkkkkaaaaaayyyyyyy Oscar.

that **** had me too.. he said Canelo-Khan was like DLH-Pac blah blah.. I do not know if he takes his stuff before or after interviews, the effect seems to be there nonetheless..

[bigdunny1]

Its funny how people believe Dan Rafael when he says there was 15mil, but did not want to believe him Golovkin was getting 10mil to fight in Kazakhstan..

Yup the irony here is somehow Rafael is not creditable source when he says the 8 digit offer was 15m that GGG turned down. but when he says GGG is getting 10m in broke azzz kaza phuk stan the same clowns are not asking for proof of this, a link, or direct quote from Loeffler to confirm it. None of those exist but Dan's word was more then enough to take as gospel for Maxi pad and soul survivor. At least try to be consistent. If fat boy dan lied on GGG then Loeffler needs to speak up. If Oscar told the world in his press conference that GGG has a 8 digit offer that they refuse to accept then Loeffler needs to speak up on it. If they don't they hurt GGG's image and make it seem like all these reports are true and GGG has to answer why he turned that money down

[Bardock]

Just because you hate Oscar doesn't change the fact that if he lied then it's on Loeffler to expose that. Instead loeffler said he got the offer and have never disputed the amount. I seen jokers like you say that Oscar lied about the offer that was sent to Chavez and then after a month later Chavez signed and it was for the exact same amount that had been reported a month earlier. Funny how Warren and Saunders exposed Loeffler as a 2 faced liar and that fight blew up because of it, you see how much a nightmare the Jacobos fight was which missed the HBO Dec date with Jacobs side taking shots at Loeffler, and Loeffler has not made a single big fight with guys like Ward exposing him as a liar. So one guy is a PROVEN liar and incompetent promoter yet you keep thinking Oscar is the one lying without a shred of evidence and with GGG, his promoter, trainer all not once saying he lied about the offer?

Get off your Oscar hate agenda and see that only 1 side is constantly being exposed for lying and that's loeffler look no further then the Warren Loeffler told me GGG is injured BS and then Saunders showing the text message for the agreement that Loeffler told reporters didn't exist. See I can point out specific line by line bs from Loeffler.

DAYYYYUUUUMMMM. :bukkake: you got a source I gotta see

[bigdunny1]

DAYYYYUUUUMMMM. :bukkake: you got a source I gotta see

[Randall Cunning]

And Tommy L doesn't seem to talk specifics very often, for better or worse, but he's changed nothing in how he operates. And Oscar hasn't changed anything...he's still pulling stuff outta his ass to get things going his way as best he can. Hence why I don't believe him to be dumb enough to offer a 200k PPV guy $15M/Gtd.

How many promoters do talk about negotiations? Cant recall hearing about negotiation specifics from the UK promoters, or PBC fights for that matter, normally it comes out after the fights are confirmed.

[Eff Pandas]

You are basically saying it's a great deal and that Loeffler should of jumped on it. So why didn't he?

Don't you think $15M/Gtd is a great offer for any 200k B-side PPV guy no strings attached?

I think Floyd only got a $10M/Gtd offer for Oscar & he had better PPV results + he had more talent + had some intangibles to help make the fight bigger in most peoples minds & which he ended up doing cuz that was Oscar's biggest fight of his career. Granted that was a decade ago, but I don't see that inflation has jumped THAT much, but maybe I'm incorrect.

And why didn't he jump on it? Cuz you can't jump on something that was never legit offered to you is my theory until I've seen it proven that it was a legit offer.

And unless you can show me where Loeffler or anyone else is saying the offer is lie there is no reason for me question it.

Yea I'll do that right after you list all the times Tommy L has discussed numbers in the media previously before a fight got made.

NOBODY has said the 8 digit offer isn't real INCLUDING GGG own team.

An 8 digit offer & $15M might be the same thing I can't argue with you there, but it also might be $5M & 50% higher an offer too you can't argue with me there either is the thing.

[soul_survivor]

Well to his credit, he reported what he heard.. All I am saying is, people toggle between when they find his info credible & when they don't..

lol true

Fat Dan is reverse Arum. Yesterday he was telling the truth. Today he's lying. But yea this.

And Tommy L doesn't seem to talk specifics very often, for better or worse, but he's changed nothing in how he operates. And Oscar hasn't changed anything...he's still pulling stuff outta his ass to get things going his way as best he can. Hence why I don't believe him to be dumb enough to offer a 200k PPV guy $15M/Gtd.

I mean ffs there is a story up right now where Oscar is saying Canelo vs Chavez Jr is going to be like Morales vs Barrera. Okkkkkkkkkkaaaaaayyyyyyy Oscar.

man Dan is just doing his job and reporting stuff, however he should be more careful with inaccurate or unproven info but like I always say, boxing journalism is some of the worst in sport