Source for Oscar/GBP offer of 15 mill to GGG?

[DJ_Quaaludes]

OP, I've posted numerous times asking for independent verification of such offer. The best anyone can come up with is 'well, they didn't flat out deny it, so it must be true'.

Which is somewhat hilarious given the hyperbole and lies that come out of promoter's mouths on a daily basis. Even if the offer was $15m, do we know any of the contract stipulations (e.g., GGG has one hand tied behind his back and agrees to get Nancy Kerrigan'ed on the way into the ring)?

The reality is GGG is the clear B side here, and Loeffler knows that. He doesn't want to get into a pissing match with GBP ala Arum and the Pac/Floyd thing, since the reality of the situation is they need Canelo more than Canelo needs them. Also, Loeffler historically has taken a much more private approach to negotiations, whether that works in his favor or not is another debate. I'm not saying he never talks about negotiations/contracts publicly, but that his actions here in no way constitute a confirmation of a 'no strings' 15 million dollar offer that people here keep insisting.

[icha]

I have no idea if the 15 million was offered or not (even the hard core g string ball gaggers said it was THEN) but given the PPV numbers of g string last fight, I bet 15 million is off the table now

As soon as the jacobs ppv numbers came out oscar said the offer was too much, so you can consider that off the table..

[BattlingNelson]

I'm just curious. There's no need for any debate on this thread, heck one post will do. I've been asking for a while, I've had people reply and say "hang on, I'm finding the source for you" only to disappear. I've has people say, "where there are videos of GGG admitting to receiving 15 million offer but saying he didn't want it"...and again, no source.

All I know is, when Oscar was being interviewed on tha tbig sports show you guys have and getting blasted for his actions, he neevr brought up 15 mill...or 10...or 5. He did say something about a "big offer" but he failed to elaborate but when he posts on twitter, he keeps mentioning 15 mill. It's weird he wouldn't mention it on national tv.

So, for all those who say the offer was/is there, any sources for it? Let's settle this nsb. You can make all the GGG fans and GGG himself look like a *****. Here's your shot!

I have been asking for a link for a long time as well. Nothing of substance has been provided. Boxingscene has reported 10m, so that's what I go with. Nothing about what stipulations that might be attached though.

I have seen that the GGG hate brigade has the 15m from Fat Dan. They treat that as gospel. When the very same fat Dan also reports, that GGG is to get 10m for fighting BJS, they say Fat Dan is not a credible source.

Go figure.

[Lester Tutor]

People need to understand that both sides have layed out alternative deals. A big culprit is Warren because he threw a bone to see how GBP and K2 could play. GBP most likely told Tom that they will decide or further after Alvarez vs Nelo has concluded which only leaves K2 but to wait. This isn't a problem since Tom has Joshua vs Klitschko to candy about. Surely GBP and Warren been talking about the WBO but just like Tom, Warren has to wait for Nelo vs Chavez Jr. to conclude. Surely inside game been fooling Tom that if the price is right they can give them the WBO. This could be a ploy by Warren to get GBP to hurry on their interests for the WBO. This is why Oscar threw a wrench that negotiations would be halted if they play with Warren. GBP wants that WBO. Loeffler form some reason has had money issues for Saunders' purse.

Any other theories?

[koolkc107]

I'm just curious. There's no need for any debate on this thread, heck one post will do. I've been asking for a while, I've had people reply and say "hang on, I'm finding the source for you" only to disappear. I've has people say, "where there are videos of GGG admitting to receiving 15 million offer but saying he didn't want it"...and again, no source.

All I know is, when Oscar was being interviewed on tha tbig sports show you guys have and getting blasted for his actions, he neevr brought up 15 mill...or 10...or 5. He did say something about a "big offer" but he failed to elaborate but when he posts on twitter, he keeps mentioning 15 mill. It's weird he wouldn't mention it on national tv.

So, for all those who say the offer was/is there, any sources for it? Let's settle this nsb. You can make all the GGG fans and GGG himself look like a *****. Here's your shot!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4siTe1Mn64Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNsKGYGjF1M

[Lester Tutor]

I have been asking for a link for a long time as well. Nothing of substance has been provided. Boxingscene has reported 10m, so that's what I go with. Nothing about what stipulations that might be attached though.

I have seen that the GGG hate brigade has the 15m from Fat Dan. They treat that as gospel. When the very same fat Dan also reports, that GGG is to get 10m for fighting BJS, they say Fat Dan is not a credible source.

Go figure.

This doesn't make sense. We just want the fight announced. Oscar said 8 figures. What number does that start at? 10 million? That's the only technical starting number when saying "8 figures." So what does it matter if it's 10-15 million? Get it? For Gomez to say that "innacurate" and ggg fans to spin it only suggests that there are details beyond just "8 figures." Perhaps some PPV upside, rematch clauses, etc.. at any rate, who would disagree that Gennady doesn't deserve 8 figures (10mil starting point)?

Fat Dan loves Oscar and GGG. Any inaccurate trolling from Dan, does 15mil benefit any different than Oscar saying "8 figures?"

[bigdunny1]

I stopped reading right here. If we hold the parties to legal principles, the burden of proof lies with the accuser to prove such a claim exists. It is not necessarily the burden of the defense to refute any claims, but rather, the burden of the accuser to substantiate any claims made.

Any link to prove the offer? (The one that was $10M for months, then one day magically became $15M)

What the phuk you talking about this ain't a court of law LMAO it's much simpler then that. A fighter has a Promoter, Manager, Trainer who all work for him and their job is to protect their fighters image and when some rival promoter or reporter puts out lies about their fighter and hurts their image they respond and set the record straight. Golden Boy works for Canelo why the phuk they going to waste time proving or disproving something that hurts GGG dumbazz? That's K2's job.

And the offer was NEVER 10m then changed to 15m. Oscar NEVER said it was 10m he said we sent them a 8 digit offer. That means 10m is the lowest amount it could possibly be. Just because fans and media assumed and ran with 10m doesn't mean that's what it was. It could of always been 15m or been higher then that. Why doesn't Loeffler clear it up rather then let it GGG look like an idiot when fans are clowning him for turning down a ESPN report of 15m. The onus is on him to protect his client from the media who are just making lies about him NOT Golden Boy's job. If the media puts out lies about Canelo they come quick to defend and set the record straight. Either GGG has shyt promoter who is incompetent or the reports are true and that's why he can't set the record straight. If he lies Golden Boy pulls a saunders and releases proof of the offer and it's 10X worse for Loeffler

[bigdunny1]

When Canelo beat Smith and said he offered 10 millions to GGG, GGG posted an image on Instagram laughing saying that he didn't know Smith punched so hard that Canelo would end up speaking so much nonsense.

So, I take it as they already said the offer was not true or something of the like.

Maxi pad now you lying again. Golden Boy said 8 figures never said 10m

[bigdunny1]

No doubt about that. Loeffler is probably legit into letting dudes **** his wife as he jacks off in the corner if his promoter persona extends into his personal life.

That doesn't change the fact Oscar "No Officer I'm Not Drunk" De La Hoya is a promoter who's often said outrageous, odd or just straight wrong sh^t & lies to promote his own upside & angles in the sport.

Just because you hate Oscar doesn't change the fact that if he lied then it's on Loeffler to expose that. Instead loeffler said he got the offer and have never disputed the amount. I seen jokers like you say that Oscar lied about the offer that was sent to Chavez and then after a month later Chavez signed and it was for the exact same amount that had been reported a month earlier. Funny how Warren and Saunders exposed Loeffler as a 2 faced liar and that fight blew up because of it, you see how much a nightmare the Jacobos fight was which missed the HBO Dec date with Jacobs side taking shots at Loeffler, and Loeffler has not made a single big fight with guys like Ward exposing him as a liar. So one guy is a PROVEN liar and incompetent promoter yet you keep thinking Oscar is the one lying without a shred of evidence and with GGG, his promoter, trainer all not once saying he lied about the offer?

Get off your Oscar hate agenda and see that only 1 side is constantly being exposed for lying and that's loeffler look no further then the Warren Loeffler told me GGG is injured BS and then Saunders showing the text message for the agreement that Loeffler told reporters didn't exist. See I can point out specific line by line bs from Loeffler.

[GGG Gloveking]

What the phuk you talking about this ain't a court of law LMAO it's much simpler then that. A fighter has a Promoter, Manager, Trainer who all work for him and their job is to protect their fighters image and when some rival promoter or reporter puts out lies about their fighter and hurts their image they respond and set the record straight. Golden Boy works for Canelo why the phuk they going to waste time proving or disproving something that hurts GGG dumbazz? That's K2's job.

And the offer was NEVER 10m then changed to 15m. Oscar NEVER said it was 10m he said we sent them a 8 digit offer. That means 10m is the lowest amount it could possibly be. Just because fans and media assumed and ran with 10m doesn't mean that's what it was. It could of always been 15m or been higher then that. Why doesn't Loeffler clear it up rather then let it GGG look like an idiot when fans are clowning him for turning down a ESPN report of 15m. The onus is on him to protect his client from the media who are just making lies about him NOT Golden Boy's job. If the media puts out lies about Canelo they come quick to defend and set the record straight. Either GGG has shyt promoter who is incompetent or the reports are true and that's why he can't set the record straight. If he lies Golden Boy pulls a saunders and releases proof of the offer and it's 10X worse for Loeffler

Loeffler is a boxing promotor, not boxiFact. Its not his job to fact check every asinine comment from Oscars mouth. And why does it only have to be in court that someone has to back up their claim? Anyone who makes a claim should have to back it up. It shouldn't be the other sides job to debunk a claim, but the claimant should substantiate.

And please, don't make me do the legwork for you. The offer was originally reported as being $10M for weeks of not months before one day being said to be $15M. This was well covered.