It's not just the moving up, it's who they are moving up to fight! Floyd went up for Gatti, took the WW title from Zab, took the Jr. MW title from Oscar, went back down, and then came back up for Canelo, then went back down and schooled Pacquiao! Oscar moved up to fight Chavez Sr., took the WW title from Sweet Pea, then went up to challenge B-Hop. Manny moved up for Morales, Cotto, and Margarito! That's greatness on a whole different level!
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Look at when they are fighting them. Some of those instances are just names. You can nitpick just about anything. For example I know Floyd is an incredible fighter but beating Gatti, then Judah (off a loss to a bum) and then washed up Oscar doesn't blow me away. Green Canelo at a catch-weight isn't stuff of legend either nor is beating a pretty used up Pacquaio. I rate Floyd's career as a collection but there's not many truly defining moments there.It's not just the moving up, it's who they are moving up to fight! Floyd went up for Gatti, took the WW title from Zab, took the Jr. MW title from Oscar, went back down, and then came back up for Canelo, then went back down and schooled Pacquiao! Oscar moved up to fight Chavez Sr., took the WW title from Sweet Pea, then went up to challenge B-Hop. Manny moved up for Morales, Cotto, and Margarito! That's greatness on a whole different level!
Not knocking it I'm just saying there's been so many fighters that have done equal or more.
Oscar beating up a used up JCC and getting a very controversial decision over an old Whitaker doesn't jump out either.Comment
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I looked for that quote and couldn't find it??? Gamboa didn't fight JuanMa either because of Arum. So what, do y'all want Loma to fight at 130 for the rest of his career ? Lmao this is crazyComment
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Nobody has said that. In fact most want him at 135 soon. If he fights at 135 and wins a title will you give him credit? Or give him **** because he isn't fighting Joshua?
Gamboa-Lopez was being marinated then Lopez lost. Simple. Garcia talked **** about Gamboa, Gamboa responded and Mikey went away. It was set to be his highest payday, a payday he is yet to get. Crawford moved in and blasted Gamboa and took Mikey's momentum and HBO and TR promotion.Comment
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A green Canelo lmaoo only in boxing can you have 46 fights and still be considered green. Canelo last 6fights been at Catchweight lol so do those fights not count???Look at when they are fighting them. Some of those instances are just names. You can nitpick just about anything. For example I know Floyd is an incredible fighter but beating Gatti, then Judah (off a loss to a bum) and then washed up Oscar doesn't blow me away. Green Canelo at a catch-weight isn't stuff of legend either nor is beating a pretty used up Pacquaio. I rate Floyd's career as a collection but there's not many truly defining moments there.
Not knocking it I'm just saying there's been so many fighters that have done equal or more.
Oscar beating up a used up JCC and getting a very controversial decision over an old Whitaker doesn't jump out either.
They wanted that 152 Catchweight purposely and that's FACTS
http://www.************.com/2013/06/de-la-hoya-canelo-will-be-faster-at-152-for-mayweather/amp/
Why are you using Gatti out of all of the champions he beat Gatti is almost never even mentioned? BIASED.
Beating a Nicolas Waters coming off a year layoff and a draw to a BUM doesnt move me either. Losing to a old journeyman with 10+losses doesn't move me either. SRL didn't beat Hagler until his mid 30s and it was Hagler last fight. Does that not count? Marciano over Louis definitely doesn't count then.Comment
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You have to factor in level of competition.Vasyl Lomachenko has amassed a plus/minus rating of +20.7 in his last 8 fights. That's the highest rating since Floyd Mayweather's +24.5 after the Andre Berto fight. CompuBox compares the stats of Mayweather & Lomachenko in 10 categories to see how they match up. Tell us fight fans what Head to Head match up you'd like to see next.
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