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  • Bronx2245
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    #91
    Originally posted by chrisJS
    Cleaning out a division isn't the worst thing in the world. I'm more impressed by that than division hopping. Bottom line if your fighting the best consistently and unifying it's really what it all comes down to.

    I can't say because fighter A won more titles in more divisions he's better than fighter B.

    For example I refuse to believe Donaire is better than Eder Jofre or Alexis Arguello.
    It's not just the moving up, it's who they are moving up to fight! Floyd went up for Gatti, took the WW title from Zab, took the Jr. MW title from Oscar, went back down, and then came back up for Canelo, then went back down and schooled Pacquiao! Oscar moved up to fight Chavez Sr., took the WW title from Sweet Pea, then went up to challenge B-Hop. Manny moved up for Morales, Cotto, and Margarito! That's greatness on a whole different level!

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    • chrisJS
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      #92
      Originally posted by Bronx2245
      It's not just the moving up, it's who they are moving up to fight! Floyd went up for Gatti, took the WW title from Zab, took the Jr. MW title from Oscar, went back down, and then came back up for Canelo, then went back down and schooled Pacquiao! Oscar moved up to fight Chavez Sr., took the WW title from Sweet Pea, then went up to challenge B-Hop. Manny moved up for Morales, Cotto, and Margarito! That's greatness on a whole different level!
      Look at when they are fighting them. Some of those instances are just names. You can nitpick just about anything. For example I know Floyd is an incredible fighter but beating Gatti, then Judah (off a loss to a bum) and then washed up Oscar doesn't blow me away. Green Canelo at a catch-weight isn't stuff of legend either nor is beating a pretty used up Pacquaio. I rate Floyd's career as a collection but there's not many truly defining moments there.

      Not knocking it I'm just saying there's been so many fighters that have done equal or more.

      Oscar beating up a used up JCC and getting a very controversial decision over an old Whitaker doesn't jump out either.

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      • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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        #93
        Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
        Garcia was mandatory to Gamboa's belt, he/his team said they weren't ready; 'not Gamboa. Not yet.'
        I looked for that quote and couldn't find it??? Gamboa didn't fight JuanMa either because of Arum. So what, do y'all want Loma to fight at 130 for the rest of his career ? Lmao this is crazy

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          #94
          I wonder what Floyd's +/- numbers would be if he fought the likes of a Jason Sosa?

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          • chrisJS
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            #95
            Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
            I looked for that quote and couldn't find it??? Gamboa didn't fight JuanMa either because of Arum. So what, do y'all want Loma to fight at 130 for the rest of his career ? Lmao this is crazy
            Nobody has said that. In fact most want him at 135 soon. If he fights at 135 and wins a title will you give him credit? Or give him **** because he isn't fighting Joshua?

            Gamboa-Lopez was being marinated then Lopez lost. Simple. Garcia talked **** about Gamboa, Gamboa responded and Mikey went away. It was set to be his highest payday, a payday he is yet to get. Crawford moved in and blasted Gamboa and took Mikey's momentum and HBO and TR promotion.

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            • AddiX
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              #96
              If loma fought as careful and boring as Floyd did, loma would be undefeated for the next 30 years for sure.

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              • chrisJS
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                #97
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                I wonder what Floyd's +/- numbers would be if he fought the likes of a Jason Sosa?
                Similar to what it was fighting Victor Ortiz, Sharmba Mitchell or Henry Brusseles.

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                • chrisJS
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by AddiX
                  If loma fought as careful and boring as Floyd did, loma would be undefeated for the next 30 years for sure.
                  Yeah, instead he will get **** for trying to entertain. Not holding enough, not running enough, fighting too often etc;

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                  • THEFRESHBRAWLER
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by chrisJS
                    Look at when they are fighting them. Some of those instances are just names. You can nitpick just about anything. For example I know Floyd is an incredible fighter but beating Gatti, then Judah (off a loss to a bum) and then washed up Oscar doesn't blow me away. Green Canelo at a catch-weight isn't stuff of legend either nor is beating a pretty used up Pacquaio. I rate Floyd's career as a collection but there's not many truly defining moments there.

                    Not knocking it I'm just saying there's been so many fighters that have done equal or more.

                    Oscar beating up a used up JCC and getting a very controversial decision over an old Whitaker doesn't jump out either.
                    A green Canelo lmaoo only in boxing can you have 46 fights and still be considered green. Canelo last 6fights been at Catchweight lol so do those fights not count???
                    They wanted that 152 Catchweight purposely and that's FACTS
                    http://www.************.com/2013/06/de-la-hoya-canelo-will-be-faster-at-152-for-mayweather/amp/

                    Why are you using Gatti out of all of the champions he beat Gatti is almost never even mentioned? BIASED.

                    Beating a Nicolas Waters coming off a year layoff and a draw to a BUM doesnt move me either. Losing to a old journeyman with 10+losses doesn't move me either. SRL didn't beat Hagler until his mid 30s and it was Hagler last fight. Does that not count? Marciano over Louis definitely doesn't count then.

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                    • Kigali
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                      Vasyl Lomachenko has amassed a plus/minus rating of +20.7 in his last 8 fights. That's the highest rating since Floyd Mayweather's +24.5 after the Andre Berto fight. CompuBox compares the stats of Mayweather & Lomachenko in 10 categories to see how they match up. Tell us fight fans what Head to Head match up you'd like to see next.
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                      You have to factor in level of competition.

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