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  • #61
    Wouldn't a better comparison be their first 9 fights? Mayweather has had a near 50 fight career against all of the greats of his generation, and we're putting his stats up against a guy who lost to a not-prime Orlando Salido? That's pretty damn disrespectful.

    Lomachenko is a phenomenal fighter and an absolute delight to watch in the ring, but he hasn't done anything to warrant this. Besides that, he hasn't been a pro long enough for any stat comparisons to be accurate anyway.

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    • #62
      Its ridiculous to compare the both. Will Loma be dominant in his late 30s like Floyd was? Will Loma be successful in moving up divisions like Floyd did and adapt and change his fighting style while fighting bigger men? They're trying to compare Loma to and the older version of Floyd who change his style as he got older and went up in weight. People complaining that Loma shouldn't move up because he's too small, yet if he's as skillful as people think he is, he should have no problem dominating bigger fighters like Manny and Floyd did. Loma was complaining about Salido being 11 lbs heavier than him yet both Manny and Floyd fought guys who outweighed them by more than than that on many occasions. Loma has skills but will see how he handles fighters like Garcia, Linares, Berchelt. He's fought good opposition on paper but if your going to make excuses for fighters that Floyd beat , then at least bring up that Loma beat a Walters who hadn't fought in over a year, a Martinez who had been dominated and stopped by Garcia and a Gary Russell who fights nothing but TBAs. People need to see how his career plays out before calling him an ATG

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      • #63
        Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
        Salido isn't a bum. If you know the sport you'd know that. But you don't so oh well.

        Why would anyone move up with the intention of getting KTFO? Sounds like you WANT him to move up and get KTFO.

        Did he refuse VADA or USADA (lol, Usada is a joke too)?

        I think more American/Latin American fighters have been caught in recent years..Salido, Peterson, Berto, Toney, Jones just to name a few..
        Obviously you don't know anything about the sport of you think Salido from America lmao
        And yes I want him to move up just like y'all wanted Floyd to move up and face ward, canelo,and ggg.
        Only reason Salido not considered a BUM because he not black. He was getting knocked out by dudes with 20+losses until he started juicing lmaoo
        And the day Loma uses vada or USADA is the day he looks average. Just like when GGG first used VADA against Jacobs he looked average. No more super power in both hands.

        James Tony and Roy Jones are recent lmaooo? And you think you know all about boxing. Ok.
        And I did not have to go back 10-15 years to get RECENT cheaters
        Igor Michalikin Tyson fury, Hughie fury ,Povetkin, Ustinov,Dillan whyte,Michael oreilly, Ali Adams,Felix sturm,Kid Galahad,Lucian Bute

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        • #64
          So these are floyds statistics from his last 15 fights.....Floyds last 15 fights were against current or former World Champions. And he went UNDEFEATED! This guy has already lost against...SALIDO. We know as americans that if you can push a certain kind of boxer, you can make a BIG fight later on. Hell you might even get a Subway commercial.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER View Post
            Obviously you don't know anything about the sport of you think Salido from America lmao
            Obviously you know nothing about reading if you think I said that.

            What part of Latin American don't you understand?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
              Why should he "step-up" to fight Crawford who is 2 divisions higher and has been quoted as saying he will be at welterweight this year? Oh and Crawford is TR so will he be fighting his next 10 fights against C Level guys for peanuts?

              Why doesn't Mikey step up and fight Canelo?

              You do know Mikey ducked Gamboa? Clear as day and instead stayed away from Boxing for over two years. Lomachenko doesn't have this ducking history your portraying.

              Your blinded by what part of the world he's from or his ethnicity or both.
              He will have to move up eventually
              Mikey didn't duck Gamboa he just wasn't gone get ****d by Arum like financially illiterate Pacquiao. I see reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I clearly said he will fight c level fighters for peanuts his next 10 fights BUT he needs to fight Crawford. Loma doesn't have any history yet lmao he's only fought 9 times. Give it a while. Everyone has to move up except guys like GGG and Loma. God forbids someone ask a European fighter to step up then all hell breaks loose.
              Last edited by THEFRESHBRAWLER; 04-12-2017, 01:26 PM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
                Obviously you know nothing about reading if you think I said that.

                What part of Latin American don't you understand?
                Respond to the rest lol

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER View Post
                  Obviously you don't know anything about the sport of you think Salido from America lmao
                  And yes I want him to move up just like y'all wanted Floyd to move up and face ward, canelo,and ggg.
                  Only reason Salido not considered a BUM because he not black. He was getting knocked out by dudes with 20+losses until he started juicing lmaoo
                  And the day Loma uses vada or USADA is the day he looks average. Just like when GGG first used VADA against Jacobs he looked average. No more super power in both hands.

                  James Tony and Roy Jones are recent lmaooo? And you think you know all about boxing. Ok.
                  And I did not have to go back 10-15 years to get RECENT cheaters
                  Igor Michalikin Tyson fury, Hughie fury ,Povetkin, Ustinov,Dillan whyte,Michael oreilly, Ali Adams,Felix sturm,Kid Galahad,Lucian Bute
                  What makes you think Loma is just an average talent? Skin color? The fact that you are childish?

                  Didn't some of TMT dudes get busted too. Floyd got caught with illegal IV. It's not just Europeans. That's racist.

                  James Tony? You really don't know boxing and yes that's recent both were within the last 15 years. Recent.

                  Had no interest in Floyd v Ward or GGG or even Canelo (too green). I'm a boxing fan not a boxer fan. I don't care enough to see fighter A win so badly or fighter B lose so desperately. I like the sport.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER View Post
                    He will have to move up eventually
                    Mikey didn't duck Gamboa he just wasn't gone get ****d by Arum like financially illetirate Pacquiao. I see reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I clearly said he will fight c level fighters for peanuts his next 10 fights BUT he needs to fight Crawford. Loma doesn't have any history yet lmao he's only fought 9 times. Give it a while. Everyone has to move up except guys like GGG and Loma. God forbids someone ask a European fighter to step up then all hell breaks loose.
                    You don't think Lomachenko has been stepping up? He's stepped up competition and weight divisions in 9 fights. Has he really only fought C level? His character seems good. Not sure how he's a ducker. Why does he need to fight a dude that's gonna be welterweight? Because he's a good black fighter? (Crawford is actually my favorite active fighter). Why does he have to move up 3 divisions now to get KTFO? What's the fun in a blowout?

                    There isn't anything in what Loma is ducking to suggest he's going to avoid challenges. Just because he upsets certain fanboys.

                    You probably thought Walters would destroy him and were one of the first to throw that win in the trash. You probably thought Russell was gonna school him (if you were watching Boxing way back in 2014) and then trashed that. A lot of fanboys/haters did.
                    Last edited by chrisJS; 04-12-2017, 11:25 AM.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
                      You don't think Lomachenko has been stepping up? He's stepped up competition and weight divisions in 9 fights. Has he really only fought C level? His character seems good. Not sure how he's a ducker. Why does he need to fight a dude that's gonna be welterweight? Because he's a good black fighter? (Crawford is actually my favorite active fighter). Why does he have to move up 3 divisions now to get KTFO? What's the fun in a blowout?

                      There isn't anything in what Loma is ducking to suggest he's going to avoid challenges. Just because he upsets certain fanboys.

                      You probably thought Walters would destroy him and were one of the first to throw that win in the trash. You probably thought Russell was gonna school him (if you were watching Boxing way back in 2014) and then trashed that. A lot of fanboys/haters did.
                      Loma, just like GGG, does not have to move up! It's just that if they don't, don't put them on the same level as Leonard, Hearns, Roy Jones Jr., B-Hop, Oscar, Floyd and Manny!

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