Is Stewart Wrong For Saying Juarez hits harder than Pacquiao?

[Kball15]

What the **** is wrong with you guys? If you're really keen on finding out who hit's harder then base it on facts not on Steward's HYPING statement.

Pacquiao's knockout percentage in 43 fights against Rocky's in his 20 + fights, then also get the average rounds for both fighters in their whole career and you'll get the right answer.

Pacquaio has a knockout percentage of 78 % and has an average of 7 rounds per fight. This use to be below 4, it went up to 7 because JMM, and Morales fight it off with the him the full route the first time with Mab lasting till the 11th and Morales to the 10th the second time.

Here's additional info, Pacman has this on his records:

6 first round KO/TKO
6 2nd Round KO/TKO
6 3rd Round KO/TKO
7 4th Round KO/TKO

Now if anybody can show that Rocky has better resume, then he hits harder. If not, then stop the craps and admit the facts
FOOLS!.

This shows and proves nothing. Rocky, IMO, throws the harder punch, but cannot pull off the incredible combos that PACMAN is known for.

Pacman throws them faster and more frequently because of his incredible stamina and incredibley accurate punches.

Juarez throws his punches harder, but a lot less frequently and a loss less effectively. No doubt juarez has fine accuracy, but it doesnt even compare to Pacmans. Pacman could punch a bullet for christ sake.

Saying that Pacman has the more powerful punch just because of his outstading KO record, doesnt mean that he has the harder punch. Does it say that he is the better fight? without a doubt. But the harder puncher cant be determined by a simple record and KO percentages.

[psychopath]

That, I can agree with; but my point is Steward is going to have a more educated opinion than any of us watching a fight. He's been around the game for years and his opinion has more clout than 100 of we posters put together.

That's right "educated opinion" and it will have more clout than ours, that just what it is, an opinion and it doesn't mean it's got to be correct or right.

[psychopath]

This shows and proves nothing. Rocky, IMO, throws the harder punch, but cannot pull off the incredible combos that PACMAN is known for.

Pacman throws them faster and more frequently because of his incredible stamina and incredibley accurate punches.

Juarez throws his punches harder, but a lot less frequently and a loss less effectively. No doubt juarez has fine accuracy, but it doesnt even compare to Pacmans. Pacman could punch a bullet for christ sake.

Saying that Pacman has the more powerful punch just because of his outstading KO record, doesnt mean that he has the harder punch. Does it say that he is the better fight? without a doubt. But the harder puncher cant be determined by a simple record and KO percentages.

Bro don't tell me that 1st round, 2nd round and 3rd round K.O. victory doesn't mean anyhting when you are talking about power.

Yeah combinations with power, that puts down opponent in the 1st and 2nd round. Common . . .

[ferocity]

Yeah right weak post. Coming from a hater like you I'm not suprised you'd say that.

DAMN, you are basing your arguement on just one fight dude and you think that your arguement is stronger? Why don't you just open your eye's and embrace reality Bro and stop hati'n. Pac sent Mab to the canvas 3 times and Rocky failed to do that, is it hard to accept that?

Just show us Rocky's knockout percetage and average round per fight and we should be done arguing.

i've been calling for a pacquiao v. rocky fight for awhile now and before the fight i was already calling for rocky v. pacquiao you can even ask manny p who thought i was crazy for thinking of such a fight.

and im basing my opinions on seeing rocky fight from his very first fight, and up, of course i didn't get a chance to see every fight but i know what he can do. and i've also followed pacquiao cause he's always fighting a mexican fighter.

just today i watch barrera v. pacquiao and rocky back to back and i got the exact same feeling at steward about rockys power "rocky hits harder then pacquiao"

even morales rocked pacquiao in their second fight and rockys right hand is just as lethal as morales right hand if not more and rockys left hook is defently more lethal....you should know the good old saying in boxing "you don't follow a puncher!" and "you don't trade hooks with a hooker"

[Kball15]

Bro don't tell me that 1st round, 2nd round and 3rd round K.O. victory doesn't mean anyhting when you are talking about power.

Yeah combinations with power, that puts down opponent in the 1st and 2nd round. Common . . .

im not saying PACMAN doesnt have power. Hes got an extremely powerful punch. But his most powerful punch is not as powerful as Juarez's most powerful punch.

Pacman is able to take out his opponents because hes got a lot of power and extremely quick hands and head. Juarez has the power accuracy and defense, but this does not add up to early KO's.

In no way what so ever does a great KO record mean u have a more powerful punch. In fact, i could mean nothing at all. If u dont agree with me by now, then i dont think u get what im saying.

And Pacman could still have the more powerful punch. i dont think he does, but its possible. All im saying is that ur evidence doesnt prove ur case. It proves hes powerful, but not more powerful.


Heres my evidence: next post

[K-DOGG]

That's right "educated opinion" and it will have more clout than ours, that just what it is, an opinion and it doesn't mean it's got to be correct or right.

Pac's obviously got power; but he started off at what? Flyweight? Juarez is a naturally bigger man, therefore, it's only logical that he packs a bigger wallop. In what weight classes did most of Pac-man's kayo's occur?

I think this is to what Emmanuel Steward was referring. Manny's always going to be dangerous; he is a naturally gifted slugger; but it's not hard for me to believe a bigger man hits harder.

However, your point is well taken.

[Kball15]

Look at barreras face. After 11 rounds of all Pacman, his face is bruised and slightly cut. A tiny cut, but a bloody one. Pacman landed like 50-100 more punches in that fight. He landed at will, especially in the later rounds.

After fighting Juarez for 12 rounds, Barreras face is swollen under both eyes. He looked like the loser of that fight, even though he wasnt. Juarez landed a TON less punches that PACMAN. And that one left hook that Juarez landed against Barrera sent him flying backwards, and this was when Barrera was active and still energetic.

In the first 8 rounds of PACMAN/BARRERA, there was no one punch landed by Pacman that sent Barrera back. It was an accumulation of combos and puches. He knocked him down with that one left hook, but the reason he went down was from the hard combo he took just seconds before.

[Kball15]

o, and pacman goes for the KO virtually every time he enters the ring.

Juarez goes for the KO periodically, but he never goes in the ring with a mindset of "im goin straight for the kill." Pacman prolly thinks this every fight. lol

[Abe Attell]

I think if Rocky was able to fight like Pac you would see a lot more people go down quicker, and his KO percentage higher...he just doesn't throw enough combos and he doesn't throw enough punches.

Seriously, the guy needs a new trainer to help him out...kick him in the ass and remind him his name is "ROCKY", it wouldn't hurt to throw more punches like him...Juerez's style is that of a heavyweight, don't understand why he fights like that.

Rocky's power seems to be more brute force, while Pac is more sharp, accurate, fast, punching with power behind it, if that makes any sense.


People seem to have this notion that KO percentage determines who the harder punchers is, or who the guy fought and was able to KO makes him a better puncher and stronger puncher...the fact is how many punches is that guy throwing, how many of those opponents are using more defense and preventing the openings because they fear getting hit, etc.

[Papa Ace]

He said this during the fight last Saturday. He said that Pac's punches are weaker than Juarez's because you can see it coming and he also said that Pac only throws 1-2's despite praising Pac's adjustment in the 2nd fight against Terible last February. I basically think Stewart don't know what he's talking about. That or he's in love with Juarez or likes discrediting Pac all the time.

Pls vote and discuss.

ive watched about 3 different coverages on pac's recent fights and almost all commentators, when pac unleashes 4-5 piece combos the'd always say he's so fast u dont know where the shots are comin from, he's hitting from almost all angles. ask barrera he was the first major recipient of it. if he truly said that then he (stewart) really doesnt know what he's sayin.