Im Sick of Guys Using & Abusing Floyd's Name!

[iron mike tyson]

cort hatton has never turned down a maywaeather fight , after the kostya tszyu fight warren got interest from mayweathers team for a showdown with hatton but mayweather wanted 75-80% of the purse so ricky decided what hes worth and was only gonna take it , thats why hes taking these so called tune ups in america so the us public can get to see wat hes about and then he can get what hes worth fighting mayweather.
dlh nobody can take away wat floyd did pre 140 but tell me wats he done since turning jnr welter?
he had hes tune up with brusseles - a fight he was never gonna lose. then he could of gona after the undistputed king at jnr welter kostya tszyu but didnt , then after hatton beat him he said he wanted that fight and he knew he would of beat kostya. he then takes the wbc belt of gatti which was a right step in the direction. junior witter becomes mandatary to hes belt so he vacates and moves up a wieght (btw junior witter wants hatton and hatton says no hes a bum ducking him? witter becomes floyd number1 contendor but decides against it but its a wise move?) he then fights a very old sharmba mitchel , gets rocked a bit with a few punches but wins as expected , after the fight he talks about challenging the undistputed king at welter , which soon becomes baldy but opts to fight the ibf paper champ in judah
going by this how is mayweathers name getting dragged through the mud?
hes done practicly nothing since super feather but yet he still feels welter owes him the favers or as it seems to be soon to be super welter

[ThunderGatti]

The last elite fighter that he fought was Castillo at 135...

AGREED!

And I also agree with DLT as well. But the facts are PBF did not fight the best at jr welter and welter.

Lets compare this for a second since PBF came to jr welter and welter to Ricky Hatton circa 2005 (and for the record I am not card carrying member of team hatton) Hatton has fought the champ at jr welter Kosta Tzsyu and Maussa who also had a title at 140. PBF has fought Henry Brussels(a guy who is probably not ranked in the top 20) and Arturo Gatti (a title holder. I belive the edge in difficult competition goes to Hatton.

Now PBF moves to welter, what is his first fight? a faded aharmbra mitchell. Hatton's first fight a title holder and a top 10 opponet in Collazo. Hell even Gatti fought a guy ranked in the top ten at welter in his first fight at 147.

And ppl r now saying what about Judah PBF fought him, yea Judah who was coming off a mentaly devistating loss, and this bad for somebody who doesnt have it all up there to begin with. And im not making excuses. I think history will prove Judah is not a elite fighter. But if the PBF fans want the Judah victory take it!

I just come from the foundation that to be the best u must beat the best. And PBF is certainly not doing that. Why should he be p4p #1 based on excellent wins 5-7 yrs ago? sorry that doesnt cut it in my book, sign the Margorito contract. PBF says its not about the $ yet he turned down 8 mill to fight Margarito. WHat bull****, PBF has used smoke and mirrors to get through 140 and 147 division and you guys r buying

[rocco1252]

He's the next Roy Jones Jr...

exactly! fighting guys that are mediocre so he doesnt lose then one day he gets called a bum for fighting these guys. My opinion says he will do this not fight any true talent on the top of their game until one day he does and gets knocked the **** out and then still gets called a bum because he never tested himself before. Either that or he retires at a real young age for a boxer just so he can retire undefeated. I dont think he is unbeatable, fighters just try to beat him at his game which is boxing , and you cant do that against him he is the type of fighter you need to smother and not give him any opportunity to pick and chose his shots and dont give him the distance to move around.

[beezy 14]

I think PBF always said "If it makes dollar's it makes sense" so he's admitting he cares about the money, and let's be real he's the P4P king now (wether ppl like him or not)so he should wanna get big money for his fight's from now til he retires(he's almost 30). IMO fighting Oscar for twice as much money at 154 which he's small at welter (and I'm a fan and admit that) is a challenge and if he win's is a big win for him. Then he could fight Margorito or Hatton and it would draw more money, Oscar,SRL and any other top dog used there leverage when they could that's the business. And about smoke and mirrors at 140, if Hatton was "the man" and he said he wasn't ready twice then that's not avoiding the top fight. The Judah that fought PBF at 147 could challenge any welter because that was the focused Judah and he MADE PBF adjust and show his superiority. It's a double standard some ppl picked Gatti to challenge PBF then they downplay the win because PBF dominated him(same with corrales). Then Hatton is talking about fighting Gatti next and there's no problem with that, and don't say you'd rather have PBF had faced Baldomir then Judah. He gave PBF some trouble and they already had the fight planned anyway, if he would've crushed Baldomir then yall would say he's tryna just get belt's etc. With all that being said he's not invincible and can lose but give the man his credit. P.S. it's funny Ring mag still has Hatton in there top P4P ranking's , would it be that way if PBF or Winky had a controversial win over a good but not Elite fighter?

[rocco1252]

I think PBF always said "If it makes dollar's it makes sense" so he's admitting he cares about the money, and let's be real he's the P4P king now (wether ppl like him or not)so he should wanna get big money for his fight's from now til he retires(he's almost 30). IMO fighting Oscar for twice as much money at 154 which he's small at welter (and I'm a fan and admit that) is a challenge and if he win's is a big win for him. Then he could fight Margorito or Hatton and it would draw more money, Oscar,SRL and any other top dog used there leverage when they could that's the business. And about smoke and mirrors at 140, if Hatton was "the man" and he said he wasn't ready twice then that's not avoiding the top fight. The Judah that fought PBF at 147 could challenge any welter because that was the focused Judah and he MADE PBF adjust and show his superiority. It's a double standard some ppl picked Gatti to challenge PBF then they downplay the win because PBF dominated him(same with corrales). Then Hatton is talking about fighting Gatti next and there's no problem with that, and don't say you'd rather have PBF had faced Baldomir then Judah. He gave PBF some trouble and they already had the fight planned anyway, if he would've crushed Baldomir then yall would say he's tryna just get belt's etc. With all that being said he's not invincible and can lose but give the man his credit. P.S. it's funny Ring mag still has Hatton in there top P4P ranking's , would it be that way if PBF or Winky had a controversial win over a good but not Elite fighter?

I definately down play Gatti due to the fact he tried to beat Mayweather at his own game. If Gatti of old was fighting I think he had a shot at actually lasting 12 rounds, but he gave Mayweather every opportunity to t off on him and let Mayweather actually box him which was a huge mistake. He should have cut off the ring, got inside and actually squared off toe to toe until Mayweather moved to the outside and started boxing again in which case you would work your way back in put him against the ropes in the corner and so on. Everyone who fights Mayweather thinks they can beat him but they never will as long as they try to box him it's so ******.

[beezy 14]

Good Post Rocco1252, I'm sure the fighter's with good trainer's try to apply this method I think it's just harder to actually pull it off. And since PBF is 1 of the best defensive fighter's as well you have to be willing to take 2 0r 3 to land a good 1(have to accept that to have a chance IMO). He's also 1 of the smartest so he makes great adjustments i.e. Zab, Castillo 2, and doesn't get greedy or impatient meaning he'll win on points if need be. The other thing I think fighter's make the mistake of is thinking he has no punch, like chop chop said he hits harder then you think. So he doesn't have 1 punch power but since he's so accurate and quick they eventually take their toll.

[DLT]

You make some very interesting points... however you are as blinded as the next person is about there fav boxer.

Mayweather uses names as much as any other boxer out there. I believe he is P4P the best in the business at the moment. I think he will be considered one of the best ever in time, however I going to pull you up on one or two points:

DLH would beat Floyd - to assume any diffrent is ******

Tell me when Hatton turned Mayweather down....

DLH would beat Floyd? No way and it wouldnt even be a close fight. Almost any expert will tell you that Floyd is a bad matchup for Oscar. The only thing that saves him is the weight but that still wont be enough. Im even more convinced after the Mayorga fight as crazy as that sounds. If you watch the fight back and look at Oscar then you would see that Mayorga is made for Oscar and that Floyd will be completely different. I see this being a easy fight that will be sad to watch by the later rounds

[SalvaDominicano]

AGREED!

And I also agree with DLT as well. But the facts are PBF did not fight the best at jr welter and welter.

Lets compare this for a second since PBF came to jr welter and welter to Ricky Hatton circa 2005 (and for the record I am not card carrying member of team hatton) Hatton has fought the champ at jr welter Kosta Tzsyu and Maussa who also had a title at 140. PBF has fought Henry Brussels(a guy who is probably not ranked in the top 20) and Arturo Gatti (a title holder. I belive the edge in difficult competition goes to Hatton.

Now PBF moves to welter, what is his first fight? a faded aharmbra mitchell. Hatton's first fight a title holder and a top 10 opponet in Collazo. Hell even Gatti fought a guy ranked in the top ten at welter in his first fight at 147.

And ppl r now saying what about Judah PBF fought him, yea Judah who was coming off a mentaly devistating loss, and this bad for somebody who doesnt have it all up there to begin with. And im not making excuses. I think history will prove Judah is not a elite fighter. But if the PBF fans want the Judah victory take it!

I just come from the foundation that to be the best u must beat the best. And PBF is certainly not doing that. Why should he be p4p #1 based on excellent wins 5-7 yrs ago? sorry that doesnt cut it in my book, sign the Margorito contract. PBF says its not about the $ yet he turned down 8 mill to fight Margarito. WHat bull****, PBF has used smoke and mirrors to get through 140 and 147 division and you guys r buying

smartest post ive read in a while...

[Tysonisgod]

I'm so sick of all of these posts, how come just cos you guys dont like floyd cos he does what boxing is all about HITS AND DOESN'T GET HIT BACK....as ali said, why stand infront of a man and get hit when you can dance and win, its a beautiful thing, and why is it that floyd has ducked tony,cotto and hatton....why is it not Tony who has never fought a big fighter and tryin to get a fight with his mouth rather than fighter his way up with big fights.....why is it that a young cotto who has fought a handfull of good fighters that everyone says floyd ducks and RICKY HATTON, ricky hatton who has fought out of england wat like 3 times or somethin, got ROCKED in his last fight where if the guy was a puncher like floyd would hav got his head ripped off....thing about this guys floyd has been fightin the best, movin up weights and goin for the hard men in the divisions, chico, castillo(dont give me the **** about they fights a win is a win lol) and RICKY HITMAN HATTON who has fought mmmmmmmmmmmmmm ONE GOOD FIGHTER WHO WAS ON THE WAY DOWN to get his title, and who ducked jr witer for years, bring on DLH if floyd loses he loses, at least he went for the hardest guy in the divison instead of fightin bums in his home town

[TheHoff'sGhost]

AGREED!

And I also agree with DLT as well. But the facts are PBF did not fight the best at jr welter and welter.

Lets compare this for a second since PBF came to jr welter and welter to Ricky Hatton circa 2005 (and for the record I am not card carrying member of team hatton) Hatton has fought the champ at jr welter Kosta Tzsyu and Maussa who also had a title at 140. PBF has fought Henry Brussels(a guy who is probably not ranked in the top 20) and Arturo Gatti (a title holder. I belive the edge in difficult competition goes to Hatton.

Now PBF moves to welter, what is his first fight? a faded aharmbra mitchell. Hatton's first fight a title holder and a top 10 opponet in Collazo. Hell even Gatti fought a guy ranked in the top ten at welter in his first fight at 147.

And ppl r now saying what about Judah PBF fought him, yea Judah who was coming off a mentaly devistating loss, and this bad for somebody who doesnt have it all up there to begin with. And im not making excuses. I think history will prove Judah is not a elite fighter. But if the PBF fans want the Judah victory take it!

I just come from the foundation that to be the best u must beat the best. And PBF is certainly not doing that. Why should he be p4p #1 based on excellent wins 5-7 yrs ago? sorry that doesnt cut it in my book, sign the Margorito contract. PBF says its not about the $ yet he turned down 8 mill to fight Margarito. WHat bull****, PBF has used smoke and mirrors to get through 140 and 147 division and you guys r buying

spot on !!