Im Sick of Guys Using & Abusing Floyd's Name!

[DLT]

This is a very long Story but Interesting. I will break it up into 3 Parts and 1 part in each of the 1st 3 post. Read if you like.

I want one person to come on here and name me one guy who Floyd has ducked and didnt fight. Name 1 and dont start talking about other things because you have no names to think of. Lets examine this further.

At 130 Floyd fought great fighters like the legendary Genero Hernandez, Carlos Hernandez, Chaves, Chico, a prime Manfredy, Augustus, Jukko, Goyo Vargas, and more. He also begged a prime Naz to move up just 4 pounds to fight him and he said No after he saw Floyd kill Chico.

At 135 he fought Castillo and won but some thought he lost and like a true champ he gave him a immediate rematch and won convincingly. He then beat a very tough Sosa and then demolished N'Dou. The N'Dou fight is a joke. That is a fight that so many experts and fans thought Floyd would lose or have alot of trouble in but because Floyd beat him so easily, they like to diminish that win and act like N'Dou is garbage. How unfair is that? He never gets credit for that fight.

Also at 135 he offered a prime Lazcano a fight and got turned down, he offered Julio Diaz a fight and got turned down, and he offered Frietas a fight and got turned down but some how people continue to say he's ducking guys.

At 140 he beats a very underrated Chop Chop in his very 1st fight and killed Gatti. Gatti is a guy who alot of people think high of and they pick him to beat alot of guys or give them trouble. Alot of people right now think he can beat Hatton, Gatti, and more but yet when they talk about the Mayweather fight, they try to diminish it and acts like he beat a nobody but yet people think Gatti can give the other guys trouble. People just dont like him.

Lets look deeper into 140. It is widley known that Floyd offered to fight Hatton in his very 1st fight at 140 but got turned down. He had to wait forever to fight Gatti because he got turned down a million times and only got the Gatti fight because he became the mandatory. Since then Hatton has again turned Floyd down alot and always says things like "I need 2 more fights". Floyd asked to fight Cotto but Arum always talked **** about how Cotto would kill him but then would never let Cotto anywhere near him but yet its again seen as Floyd ducked people. He also offered Frietas another fight at 140 but again got turned down.

Now what is Floyd supposed to do. Stay at 140 and wait & wait? Who else at 140 did he have to fight? or did you guys want him to fight bums in the mean time so you can again write about that? Floyd offered all these guys fights, they all said No and now he decides to move to 147. At 147 Zab is recognized as the undisputed Champ. This is what people keep forgetting. Mosley was the guy and then Forrest beat him, Mayorga beat him, Spinks beat him, and Zab beat him. Margarito was a after thought. Why would Floyd want Margarito when Zab was seen as the Champ and was the bigger fight?

Zab looked very dangerous after the Spinks fight and Floyd didnt want to face Zab in his very 1st fight at a weight that he didnt know how he would react and Zab is a southpaw that is always scary so Floyd wants a tuneup. Could he have fought Margarito in his 1st fight? Yes but how is that going to help him against his ultimate goal of Zab, who is seen as the Champ? He picked Mitchell and people rip him for that but there missing the point. He didnt pick Mitchell just to fight him. He picked Mitchell because he saw him as the perfect tuneup for Zab. No other fighter would give Floyd a preview of that southpaw look & slick style.

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PART 2

People always forget that Floyd signed the fight before Zab fought Baldomire. If Zab wins that fight like he is supposed to then Floyd has another big win on his resume but this idiot loses and Floyd seems to take the bigger heat for that. He couldnt fight Margarito because he already had a fight scheduled and Baldomire wanted too much money. Alot of people who hate Floyd said that he shouldve fought Baldy but who really wants to see that? Anyone can see that he is not that good and Floyd wouldve killed him. Then people wouldve been bitchin about that. I still wouldve rather seen the Zab fight then that fight.

Now the Zab fight is over and Arum brain washes the public. He comes out and immediatly says that I want Floyd to fight Margairto next and Im offering him 8 mil. People cant even catch on. Arum just did that to make Floyd look bad. Floyd was never going to look at that fight next. Floyd has wanted to fight Oscar for years and has let that be known. Now he's in the best position he's ever been in to do that and Oscar is only having one more fight. You think he's going to fight Margarito? Then people talk about 8 mil? So what. What is that compared to 20 mil?

1st off I want to know how can Floyd be looked at like he ducked anyone at 147 when the guy has only had 2 fights and one was signed when Zab was the Champ? People act like Floyd has been at 147 for 8 years and never fought Margarito. He only had 2 fights and both of those fights were supposed to be designed for him to be seen as the undisputed Champ but the Zab lost ****ed that up.

Now, lets really look back in the past. This will be disputed by some people on here but I clearly remember this. Floyd was at 135 and he was going on alot of shows and they all would ask him about Oscar and he would say that he's good but not great. Then RJ fought Ruiz at HW. After that fight Floyd got hyped and really wanted to fight Oscar. Does anyone remember that? Floyd was dead serious. He thought he could really make the jump because he saw Roy do it and he knows that Shane jumped from 135-147 to fight Floyd the 1st time. Most people thought Oscar would kill him but right after that he had the N'Dou fight and people started to actually think that Floyd might have a chance.

If anyone has the N'Dou fight on tape then go back and watch it. They talk all during the fight and after the fight about Floyd wanting Oscar in his next fight or the one after. Arum had then begun talks with Oscar. The plan was for Floyd to go to 147, fight Margarito as a tuneup, and then fight Oscar at 154. Do any of you remember this? Thats why I laugh now when people say Floyd is scared of Margarito. He was going to use him as a tuneup to Oscar when he was way back at 135 and even back then you could see that Floyd wanted Oscar more then anyone so why do people act like Floyd is ducking this guy now when he has always wanted Oscar over any fight?

Oscar came out and say that he wont fight Floyd. Then the plan changed again. Floyd & Arum said that he would jump straight to 154 and fight Raul Marquez as a tunep & then fight Oscar. Do any of you remember that? You know its true. Oscar again said No and thats when Floyd started getting scared about Oscar turning him down so then Floyd & Arum tells Oscar that he will come straight from 135 to 154 and fight Oscar without a tuneup and they were dead serious. There were alot of articles wrote about it but Oscar stayed saying he will never fight Floyd.

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PART 3

Now Floyd is just one weight lower then Oscar and unlike back then, he is widley recognized as the best fighter in the world. Oscar now is considering fighting Floyd for the 1st time and Oscar just killed Mayorga. If he fights Floyd then this fight money wise could be the biggest non HW fight in History but you guys think he is ducking Margarito?

I made this thread today because Ive been reading alot of stuff about how Hatton is saying that he is going back down to 140 unless something like a Mayweather fight came along. Complete joke. Thats what Im talking about when I say "using guys names". He has already turned Floyd down so many times and just barley beat Callazo. Now Floyd has let it be known that he's going straight for Oscar so Hatton knows he can call Floyd's name out now because he knows that Floyd is looking at Oscar and then when he goes back down he can make up stuff like "I came to 147 for Floyd and I wanted him to fight me but he didnt want it, so I went back down".

I could see Graham saying in a bunch of interviews about how Floyd didnt want the fight and how Hatton cant make guys fight him? Its a joke. Just like saying he is the king of 140. How can you turn down Floyd time after time but say you are the king? IF Oscar wasnt around then Hatton would be running back down to 147 if Floyd called him out but he knows he can do it now because Oscar is there.

The only fight you could "possibly" say that Floyd was B.S.ing about is the Winky fight but guys like myself and GL from BT dont think he was. I think Floyd was considering it but was somewhat cautious but if Winky wouldve agreed to the money then it was very possible. I knew there was no way that Floyd would move from 140 to 154 to fight a elite guy like Winky for 50-50. I bet that if Floyd beats Oscar and if Winky beats Taylor then you will see Floyd talk alot about that fight again but he wont do it for 50/50 because Floyd's name gets bigger every fight and it will be large after a Oscar fight. I believe that Floyd really thinks he can beat Winky and like he says, "No one is going to beat me with a Jab".

Alright guys thats the end but look at Floyd's resume and tell me how many have a better one. Look at the names of guys who turned fights with him down (Naz, Lazcano, Frietas, Gatti, Hatton, Cotto, and Osacr) but yet its always seen as he ducked guys. Im still waiting for names. He's in his prime right now and I dont think he will ever have a average fight again. He wants all big names now until he loses or retires. If he fights Oscar then next I think he would fight Winky or Margarito, then maybe the winner of Shane & Vargas or vice versa, and then come back down to finish off with Hatton & Cotto.

People just always hold Floyd to a different standard because they hated him and its not right. When guys turn him down, the media never really talks much about it but then he leaves the division and they are quicked to say he ducked guys or left the division without cleaning it out. People try to diminish his wins but would give other fighters credit for those same wins. They pick guys to beat or do well against Floyd and when he dominates them then they act like the other guy was no good. Its not fair and his resume is better then alot of people think. Again, name me one guy he ducked

[guru]

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[CarminePersico]

floyd is gargage lol , naw just playing but he's not as good as people say he is... he's first loss is coming soon , on top of that floyd has a BIG EGO as soon as he loses or gets knocked on his ass...he wont ever be same fighter again


garuntee... Ego fuels floyd ,once he loses that he will be done



floyd is the best "boxer" in the world , not "fighter" ,...floyd hasnt gained my respect yet, he just boxes, ducks everyone ...


man , shane mosley could have skipped winky , and fought trinidad, but he fought winky because he was the harder fight, and he lost , floyd fights who he thinks he can beat ,... he is not a true champion and he will not go down history as one of the best

[jabsRstiff]

I think Floyd is easily the best fighter in the world, & has the ability to be mentioned amongst the greats.

However.....you, DLT, are a complete whack-o.

[RAESAAD]

I think Floyd is easily the best fighter in the world, & has the ability to be mentioned amongst the greats.

However.....you, DLT, are a complete whack-o.

Agreed Floyd is easliy the best out there right now and has a bright future still too IMO.

[baya]

good post. i agree with everything you said dlt.

[rocco1252]

first let me make it known that you like floyd entirely too much, he's only the pound for pound great because of his opponents he hasnt fought a true champion well in about ever. Second he would get murdered by DLH he doesnt have the power to hold DLH off nor could he handle the left hook of DLH, we still have yet to see his chin tested against a worthy opponent with actual skill and power at the weight class he is in.
He fought Gatti, he's exciting but thats it he's not ever going to be a great but he will be known for his heart and fighting spirit, thats it. He fought Corrales another one same thing all heart and can take and give a beating. Castillo he lost he was lucky his corner paid off the judges to give it to him that night because he wouldnt even be considered great if he lost to the cheating Castillo. All the people he has faced have been bums I dont care what anyone says.
Fact of the matter is Mayweather calls people out left and right (winky, dhl, hatton, margorito ect. ect)and says they are ducking him but they arent they are just ducking the fact Mayweather thinks he is an attraction and wants 75% of the purse every time. He is a greatly managed fighter I will give him that much because they know how to over price him and keep him out of fights he would most likely lose in and put him in the fights with people he will one sidedly beat to make him look better and make some good money to carry on the mayweather name as being great.

[neils7147933]

Mayweather may be #1 p4p, but he clearly avoided Carlos Baldomir to fight the guy Baldomir lost for more money and he passed up 8M to fight Antonio Margarito. I don't know if that counts for "ducking", but there's two legitimate 147 lb. beltholders he chose not to fight while fighting Judah and pursuing other potential megafights...