If Anthony Joshua knocks klitschko out, i don't want to see backpeddaling

[elfag]

Today's guys are physically stronger. But the eighties crop I think had better mobility and skills . Probably the best puncher was Weaver. But I was only watching Tubbs giving Bowe fits the other day and realising how underatted he was. I'd pick him over Wilder or Parker. I'd say that Witherspoon or Dokes would beat these guys too. Even watching Povetkin getting a run for his money from Huck makes me think the 225lb heavy is better than these 250lb guys were now seeing,who I think would've been too slow for Tyson.

everyone thinks fighters today are so much bigger than the guys of the past. when in reality most of the heavyweights today have ***** **** and could stand to lose 20-30 pounds. they are the same size as the 80s, they just got fatter.

[casheddie]

It's looking like a 50-50 fight.

I don't see a KO but if Joshua or Klitschko get aggressive enough, it could happen.

[juggernaut666]

Today's guys are physically stronger. But the eighties crop I think had better mobility and skills . Probably the best puncher was Weaver. But I was only watching Tubbs giving Bowe fits the other day and realising how underatted he was. I'd pick him over Wilder or Parker. I'd say that Witherspoon or Dokes would beat these guys too. Even watching Povetkin getting a run for his money from Huck makes me think the 225lb heavy is better than these 250lb guys were now seeing,who I think would've been too slow for Tyson.

Well a 220 pound HW wont fight like a 240/250 pound one. super Heavy weights of this size brings new dimensions bc they are getting trained better and getting faster as well. The 80's had very good technical guys ,prob better than today because they were smaller/lanky and it was the era of working off the jab more. I trained under a guy named Bill sharkey back in the late 90's briefly he fought both Weaver and Bruno and said Bruno hit way harder.This is also evidant with Brunos size advantage. Fighters just got bigger and stronger theres no way around that.

Tyson is one of a kind,you cant really use him to justify others. Witherspoon and Dokes were skilled but???? Again does the lesser punches deal with the SHW's easier than the better technical guys of their era who did not have the skill and size combined? Alot of good boxers COULD win i guess in these eras but skill combined with size also has to be taken into the equation.

Alot of 70's hype actually over shadowed some talent the 80's offered but no one really looks at these guys skills when they watch Ali clips....oh well.

[-Kev-]

I'm a fan of what Wlad has done, I would like him to win but between the long lay off, his age, and just the type of fighter Joshua is I think Joshua is going to win. If some people are confident of Wlad winning then it must be based on them thinking Joshua really sucks, not that Wlad is that good. You can't beat age forever, especially not with the lay off Wlad has had. If i'm wrong, damn, it means Joshua really sucks then.

[bluepete]

Well a 220 pound HW wont fight like a 240/250 pound one. super Heavy weights of this size brings new dimensions bc they are getting trained better and getting faster as well. The 80's had very good technical guys ,prob better than today because they were smaller/lanky and it was the era of working off the jab more. I trained under a guy named Bill sharkey back in the late 90's briefly he fought both Weaver and Bruno and said Bruno hit way harder.This is also evidant with Brunos size advantage. Fighters just got bigger and stronger theres no way around that.

Tyson is one of a kind,you cant really use him to justify others. Witherspoon and Dokes were skilled but???? Again does the lesser punches deal with the SHW's easier than the better technical guys of their era who did not have the skill and size combined? Alot of good boxers COULD win i guess in these eras but skill combined with size also has to be taken into the equation.

Alot of 70's hype actually over shadowed some talent the 80's offered but no one really looks at these guys skills when they watch Ali clips....oh well.

Well Bruno is a good example really. The 80s Bruno was two stone lighter, and managed to go five rounds with a still fierce Tyson. 90s Bruno matched up well with Lewis and Mccall and dispatched Williams ect with ease, but that size played into Tysons hands second time around, he didn't even have a moment in the two and half rounds they fought. He couldn't land, and couldn't get out of the way even slightly. I think of how well a smaller, fairly light Mercer out jabbed Lewis, how Witherspoon smash Gonzalez, who, though not in his prime, couldn't make he's size pay either. Outside of true giants like Fury and Vitali, I don't think 240 to 250 works too well. I liked the look of 16stone Lewis and Bowe better come to think of it Bowe had better work rate and plenty of power. Lewis of the Ruddock fight was 16 3..not as skilled as under Steward but just as devastating. But anyway, I could see Tyson doing very well against the current crop, unless these big guys can move like Vitali and Fury, they look too stationary to me.

[bluepete]

everyone thinks fighters today are so much bigger than the guys of the past. when in reality most of the heavyweights today have ***** **** and could stand to lose 20-30 pounds. they are the same size as the 80s, they just got fatter.

Yep, when I see Chisora and Whyte, I think 20lbs lighter would be a good move. Look at how Tyson Fury improved for Wlad with a stone or two cut from him. I think weight is overrated. And like you say, outside let's say Joshua and Klitschko, the gain is largely fat.

[LetOutTheCage]

I'm hoping AJ does it but I am a little worried about him. There's been a lot of rumors about him being badly dropped in sparring and he seemed to take a long time to recover. Then again if Wlad fights like he did against Fury then Joshua could steamroll him in a couple of rounds