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  • DARKSEID
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    #31
    Originally posted by j0zef
    Kovalev's jab dominated the first 4 rounds, and they both landed a similar amount of jabs in the fight (48 vs 55).

    Considering Ward is a light puncher, as is his jab, there's absolutely no way you can say it was the biggest weapon of the night.
    No way dude, Ward's Jab was landing harder than kovalev's, you need to rewatch the fight again.

    And even if kovalev landed 1 or 2 single jabs harder than ward, ward outjabbed him maybe 5 to 1 or more.
    Last edited by DARKSEID; 04-05-2017, 11:31 AM.

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    • j0zef
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      #32
      Originally posted by DARKSEID
      No way dude, Ward's Jab was landing harder than kovalev's, you need to rewatch the fight again.
      No offense, but a statement like this isn't even worth arguing with, it's that wrong. Ward is an accurate puncher, but he has always been featherfisted, even at 168. Part of that is because he's defense first and doesn't put all his weight into majority of his punches.

      Claiming that his jabs were landing harder than Kovalev is so laughable ****'s not even funny. And as I said before, they landed a similar amount of jabs. Neither fighter's jab was the weapon of the night.

      At 0:25 Kovalev wobbles Ward with a jab:


      Ward made great adjustments in 2nd half and Kovalev gassed badly, let's not invent some ridiculous narrative where Ward was the harder puncher.

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        #33
        Originally posted by j0zef
        No offense, but a statement like this isn't even worth arguing with, it's that wrong. Ward is an accurate puncher, but he has always been featherfisted, even at 168. Part of that is because he's defense first and doesn't put all his weight into majority of his punches.

        Claiming that his jabs were landing harder than Kovalev is so laughable ****'s not even funny. And as I said before, they landed a similar amount of jabs. Neither fighter's jab was the weapon of the night.

        At 0:25 Kovalev wobbles Ward with a jab:


        Ward made great adjustments in 2nd half and Kovalev gassed badly, let's not invent some ridiculous narrative where Ward was the harder puncher.
        i don't need to watch a highlight, I'm watching the entire fight right now, i'm on round 10 and I have ward up.

        even if kovalev landed 1 or 2 single jabs harder than ward, ward outjabbed him maybe 5 to 1 or more.

        I'm not blind, I know what i'm seeing, it's right in front of me, so when you tell me i'm wrong, I have to wonder what exactly you're seeing.

        Watch the fight again.

        If Kovalez land 5 hard clean jabs, and Ward lands 30 hard clean jabs, then Ward's jab is the more effective weapon.
        Last edited by DARKSEID; 04-05-2017, 11:42 AM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by j0zef
          No offense, but a statement like this isn't even worth arguing with, it's that wrong. Ward is an accurate puncher, but he has always been featherfisted, even at 168. Part of that is because he's defense first and doesn't put all his weight into majority of his punches.

          Claiming that his jabs were landing harder than Kovalev is so laughable ****'s not even funny. And as I said before, they landed a similar amount of jabs. Neither fighter's jab was the weapon of the night.

          At 0:25 Kovalev wobbles Ward with a jab:


          Ward made great adjustments in 2nd half and Kovalev gassed badly, let's not invent some ridiculous narrative where Ward was the harder puncher.
          Here watch 48:00- 48:15 of this video, those are the two most effective jabs of the fight.

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          • j0zef
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            #35
            Originally posted by DARKSEID
            i don't need to watch a highlight, I'm watching the entire fight right now, i'm on round 10 and I have ward up.

            even if kovalev landed 1 or 2 single jabs harder than ward, ward outjabbed him maybe 5 to 1 or more.

            I'm not blind, I know what i'm seeing, it's right in front of me, so when you tell me i'm wrong, I have to wonder what exactly you're seeing.

            Watch the fight again.
            Dude, you're here claiming that Ward landed harder shots than Kovalev and he outjabbed him 5-1 despite 55-48 jab count.

            Please stop, this is downright embarassing.

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            • DARKSEID
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              #36
              Originally posted by j0zef
              Dude, you're here claiming that Ward landed harder shots than Kovalev and he outjabbed him 5-1 despite 55-48 jab count.

              Please stop, this is downright embarassing.
              No what's embarassing is you refusing to watch the fight, which is what i'm doing.

              I wipe my ass with compubox, there is no self respecting boxing fan that will say compubox is accurate, I'll take that to the bank.

              You're the one that should be embarassed because i'm watching ward out jab kovalev in real time, i'm not making this **** up lol I have the video right in front of me, and you're saying the truth is wrong?

              Watch the fight again.

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              • j0zef
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                #37
                Originally posted by DARKSEID
                Here watch 48:00- 48:15 of this video, those are the two most effective jabs of the fight.

                I post a video in which Ward gets severely wobbled by a jab, you post a video in which both guys eat a jab and are OK and claim "those were the 2 hardest jabs of the night".

                I'm done with you.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by j0zef
                  I post a video in which Ward gets severely wobbled by a jab, you post a video in which both guys eat a jab and are OK and claim "those were the 2 hardest jabs of the night".

                  I'm done with you.
                  Ok but if you actually watch the fight again, you'll see that i'm right.

                  If you don't watch the fight, and depend on highlights then you'll stay wrong. Simple as that.

                  The truth doesn't change and i'm staring right at it.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Banko Villas
                    The fight could as well have been a draw, it was very close. But there was nothing controversial about Ward winning, he deserved it. Next time, Kovalev won't score any lucky knockdowns. Ward knows what it feels like to be in the ring with Kovalev now and Ward is a smart fight. He will adept. Next time, Kovalev will get completely clowned.
                    I had it 6-6 and kd for Kova. I think Ward wins the rematch a lot easier.

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                      #40
                      Also, how could anyone say kovalev's punches were more effective than ward's when kovalev gassed and ward didn't lol?

                      You think Carl Froch and arthur abraham thought ward was featherfisted? You can bet your ass they felt his power. Power isn't all about strength , it's also about timing, accuracy and speed. You can hit like a truck but if you can't connect cleanly then it doesn't mean jack ****. Ask some of ali's opponents.

                      Nobody who ward has ever fought will call him featherfisted, but I guess we should listen to the guy who doesn't even know how to score a fight.
                      Last edited by DARKSEID; 04-05-2017, 12:03 PM.

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