rick glaser drops the real ppv #'s for ggg/jacobs

[kafkod]

Basically when he was first being used was by some GGG fans trying to expose GBP fighters and some of Floyd's fights. That all went downhill when Glaser came out with GGG's numbers for Lemiuex, he was no longer viewed as credible. But when he first started he was seen as the be all of PPV source. GGG fans would worship him until he unintentionally went against them.

[OnePunch]

Let's be honest.

No matter whose numbers we choose to believe the GGG-Jacobs PPV didn't sell well. Certainly not enough to give GGG any leverage over Canelo when it comes to negotiating the financials.

ok, lets REALLY be honest then: GGGs "leverage" was NEVER going to be ppv numbers. Everyone with more than 3 brain cells knows that Canelo is the bigger draw. GGGs "leverage" is the titles, and the fact that to get his respect back, Canelo has to fight him.

[bigdunny1]

this is the way it works here at NSB:

If Glaser's number supports your narrative, then he's a savvy insider.

If Glaser's number does NOT support your narrative, then he's just a hack counting facebook likes.

and whats great is you can alternate between fights as well. So you can use 97k for GGG-Lemieux, and 123k for GGG-Jacobs, but then ignore Glaser's numbers for Canelo-Khan and Canelo-Smith, and just use the 600k and 300k numbers that came from Golden boy......

Problem is GGG fan girls like to take GGG K2 numbers then compare to glaser canelo numbers. Let's just use glaser or just use promoter released numbers deal?
Regardless what source you use just be consistant and when you do you see that across the boards canelo/smith did at least 2x GGG and canelo/khan did 4x. Canelo/cotto did 6x. And canelo/chavez might do even more then cotto fight. Basically canelo on his worst day against unknown fighter is twice the draw as GGG in his biggest fight of his career. And canelo with any name fighter who fans have actually seen before is 4-6x the draw as GGG. so why again is GGG asking for a 50/50 split? pricing himself out asking for money that the numbers prove he doesn't deserve. SMH

[Motorcity Cobra]

GGGs "leverage" is the titles, and the fact that to get his respect back, Canelo has to fight him.

Canelo doesn't care about the titles. He's dropped titles at 154 and 160. If he gave a **** about the titles he wouldn't have given up his title to GGG. And get his respect back? From who? GGG fans? The whole 170k who bought the fight and the 19k who attened the fight? Canelo-Chavez is already sold out and will come close to breaking a million PPV buys. If this fight does well and it's close do you think Canelo is fighting to get his respect back in September of rematching Chavez Jr?

Canelo is young and has another decade left in the game. Bowe never fought Lewis after dropping the title and he's respected. GGG will be a minor footnote on his career a decade from now.

[icha]

Problem is GGG fan girls like to take GGG K2 numbers then compare to glaser canelo numbers. Let's just use glaser or just use promoter released numbers deal?
Regardless what source you use just be consistant and when you do you see that across the boards canelo/smith did at least 2x GGG and canelo/khan did 4x. Canelo/cotto did 6x. And canelo/chavez might do even more then cotto fight. Basically canelo on his worst day against unknown fighter is twice the draw as GGG in his biggest fight of his career. And canelo with any name fighter who fans have actually seen before is 4-6x the draw as GGG. so why again is GGG asking for a 50/50 split? pricing himself out asking for money that the numbers prove he doesn't deserve. SMH

Are you asking ggg fans to use the same ppv source for all fighters???
How you dare???

[-Kev-]

I'm tired of people stating this bull**** as if it's a fact. This whole argument is based on absolutely no substantial proof. Fanbases of all fighters love to point out ironies, even if they're grounded in nothing more than pig ****.

There are several tools on this forum that love to claim that 'Canelo did 900k and lil gigi did 97k'. Do you see any normal Golovkin fans reference that one phrase from some moron 10 times a day?

No? Then please stop with these ******ed generalizations. Glaser is a tool and always has been, no matter whose numbers he "reports".

It's actual fact. Forgot the poster's name, he was obsessed with some blonde gaming chick, he had her on his av and sig. He was the first one to use Glaser as a PPV source, the guy was a huge GGG supporter. His Glaser PPV threads would gain a lot of attention from the GGG fans. That was their source. I feel sorry that you're sick of this, but ti's the truth, he was GGG fans go to source until the Lemiuex fight.

[ShoulderRoll]

ok, lets REALLY be honest then: GGGs "leverage" was NEVER going to be ppv numbers. Everyone with more than 3 brain cells knows that Canelo is the bigger draw. GGGs "leverage" is the titles, and the fact that to get his respect back, Canelo has to fight him.

The titles aren't going to make Golden Boy give GGG more money or a better purse split. That's fantasy land.

Golovkin just needs to take what they offer him and get Canelo in the ring. Beat him then he can call some shots for the rematch.

[icha]

It's actual fact. Forgot the poster's name, he was obsessed with some blonde gaming chick, he had her on his av and sig. He was the first one to use Glaser as a PPV source, the guy was a huge GGG supporter. His Glaser PPV threads would gain a lot of attention from the GGG fans. That was their source. I feel sorry that you're sick of this, but ti's the truth, he was GGG fans go to source until the Lemiuex fight.

That was hugigo , missing in action by the way...

[bigdunny1]

ok, lets REALLY be honest then: GGGs "leverage" was NEVER going to be ppv numbers. Everyone with more than 3 brain cells knows that Canelo is the bigger draw. GGGs "leverage" is the titles, and the fact that to get his respect back, Canelo has to fight him.

This is GGG make believe logic none of those paper belts mean a thing at the negotiation table. When GGG gets that fact the fight will happen. Canelo is young, a huge draw and will cotinue to make big money. While GGG can continue fighting for peanuts and getting older until he gets it. He has no leverage and only a idiot doesnt realize he lost leverage the moment these Jacobs numbers came out proving the lemiuex flop wasn't a fluke but validation that he has no business ever being on PPV.

He is the clear B side but has demands of PPV superstar. And fans like you are part of the problem. Defending, making excuse of him refusing to give concessions to land bigger and better fights at 35 no less. So you deserve the shyt fights he gives you because you condone a man saying he wants 50/50 split to fight canelo or his promoter turning down 15m or his team making a fight with bum Saunders rather then a canelo fight in Sept. Why should GGG ever step up with clowns like you not demanding it. Mr 154 or 168 turning down fights and chumps giving him a pat on the back for doing it SMH

[OnePunch]

Canelo doesn't care about the titles. He's dropped titles at 154 and 160. If he gave a **** about the titles he wouldn't have given up his title to GGG. And get his respect back? From who? GGG fans? The whole 170k who bought the fight and the 19k who attened the fight? Canelo-Chavez is already sold out and will come close to breaking a million PPV buys. If this fight does well and it's close do you think Canelo is fighting to get his respect back in September of rematching Chavez Jr?

Canelo is young and has another decade left in the game. Bowe never fought Lewis after dropping the title and he's respected. GGG will be a minor footnote on his career a decade from now.

yeah yeah, thats what some people say, yet Canelo's actions say otherwise.

If he dosent care about titles, why still pay a sanction fee after cotto vacated the title?

If he doesnt care about titles, why pay a sanction fee to fight Smith?

If he doesnt care about titles, why let the WBC make up some ******ed belt for the Chavez fight?