Comments Thread For: WBA President is Tackling The Issue of Controversial Decisions

[Eff Pandas]

You can't really do anythign about it.

Thats bs. Idk why some cats act like boxing rules are some biblical type sh^t. The rules of boxing have changed many times in history (personally I'm partial to those Jack Dempsey rulebook days when if you dropped a guy you could hover over him ready to blast him as soon as he got to his feet). Of course you can make the rules better & improve upon them its merely a matter of how.

And sure even when you make them better there will still be cracks in the cement, but its silly to think the rules need to stay the same as they are now or they gotta be perfect if we change them which is how some cats think for whatever reason.

I've been to shows where you can see judges almost falling asleep on the chair because I fight is dull and boring and that's what happens with bad decisions they lose concentration...

LOL, but I don't doubt this happens. I mean one of the issues to me with judges is why are so many of them white haired senior citizens. Why can't we have more 30 year old judges? Why aren't more ex-boxers, amateur or pro, judges (& refs for that matter)?

You can start by having a replay system to review headbutts, knockdowns and low blows.

For sure on this. I think they got this antiquated concept that if the ref didn't see it in real time it didn't happen. Well it sure as f#ck did happen if the guy hit with a c#ck shot did get hit with it. And thats another thing thats just f#cking ******ed & needs to change.

There should be legit situations where a guy got a knockdown or was on the receiving end of a brutal low blow that a ref missed, but was caught on video & gets the decision of a fight reversed on those facts if the point or two that a guy shoulda gotten coulda altered the outcome of the bout.

Then you get to the way rounds are scored. Scoring will always be subjective but I think it wouldn't hurt to add more judges so one guy with an off night doesn't ruin a fighters career.

See I disagree with this. No doubt the scoring criteria is subjective now, but I don't see why we can't decide that x, y & z are the 3 definite things that we want to win a round & that if at least two of them went fighter A's way he wins the round. Throw that in the rulebook & the sport will conform around those rules. Its just a matter of what we wanna make those 3 things.

For example for me I'd say Damage, Punches Landed & Aggression should be the 3 things that decide who won a round. F#ck the subjectivity involved with defense & ring generalship & the light subjectivity with "effective" aggression & "clean" punches & the order with which those things should be judged & all the other nonsense judges are told.

[daggum]

if courage were a scoring criteiria like he said guys like ward and floyd would never win.

[kushking]

if courage were a scoring criteiria like he said guys like ward and floyd would never win.

if courage were a scoring criteiria like he said guys like ward and floyd would never win.

Neither would ggg as he is devoid of the courage to get in ring willingly with someone that has a pulse. Ward is a warrior who is already the greatest smw of all time. He has unified smw by beating the absolute best by ko,& he then moved up to fight senior ggg instead of baby g who clowns say hes ducking,he tamed clincher & took his straps, becoming 2 division undisputed champ. Yet g whos yet to win a single belt that wasnt a vacant undefended paper belt & is now ducking jacobs whom he robbed,is looked @ as a god from you clowns who hate on ward because gs ducking scared under the bed wetting himself when wards mentioned.

[A.K]

What about the hiring process a lot of these judges never boxed or have any clue of what they're watching like when they count glove punches, that whole panel of judges they had for the ward kov fight should be fired they dksab.

[A.K]

Neither would ggg as he is devoid of the courage to get in ring willingly with someone that has a pulse. Ward is a warrior who is already the greatest smw of all time. He has unified smw by beating the absolute best by ko,& he then moved up to fight senior ggg instead if baby g who clowns say hes ducking,he tamed clincher & took his straps, becoming 2 division undisputed champ. Yet g whos yet to win a single belt that wasnt a vacant undefended paper belt & is now ducking jacobs whom he robbed,is looked @ as a god from you clowns who hate on ward because gs ducking scared under the bed wetting himself when wards mentioned.

No ones scared of that biiitch niigga ward you delusional I can tell ydsab when you said Jacobs got robbed, and wait doesn't Jacobs have a pulse you dumb****?

[-PBP-]

Thats bs. Idk why some cats act like boxing rules are some biblical type sh^t. The rules of boxing have changed many times in history (personally I'm partial to those Jack Dempsey rulebook days when if you dropped a guy you could hover over him ready to blast him as soon as he got to his feet). Of course you can make the rules better & improve upon them its merely a matter of how.

And sure even when you make them better there will still be cracks in the cement, but its silly to think the rules need to stay the same as they are now or they gotta be perfect if we change them which is how some cats think for whatever reason.



LOL, but I don't doubt this happens. I mean one of the issues to me with judges is why are so many of them white haired senior citizens. Why can't we have more 30 year old judges? Why aren't more ex-boxers, amateur or pro, judges (& refs for that matter)?



For sure on this. I think they got this antiquated concept that if the ref didn't see it in real time it didn't happen. Well it sure as f#ck did happen if the guy hit with a c#ck shot did get hit with it. And thats another thing thats just f#cking ******ed & needs to change.

There should be legit situations where a guy got a knockdown or was on the receiving end of a brutal low blow that a ref missed, but was caught on video & gets the decision of a fight reversed on those facts if the point or two that a guy shoulda gotten coulda altered the outcome of the bout.



See I disagree with this. No doubt the scoring criteria is subjective now, but I don't see why we can't decide that x, y & z are the 3 definite things that we want to win a round & that if at least two of them went fighter A's way he wins the round. Throw that in the rulebook & the sport will conform around those rules. Its just a matter of what we wanna make those 3 things.

For example for me I'd say Damage, Punches Landed & Aggression should be the 3 things that decide who won a round. F#ck the subjectivity involved with defense & ring generalship & the light subjectivity with "effective" aggression & "clean" punches & the order with which those things should be judged & all the other nonsense judges are told.

I don't think that's possible. Fans can't even agree on whether a punch landed with slow motion replays and HD footage so how is a judge scoring the fight live at ringside with distorted views going to ever be able to score every fight with complete accuracy. Compubox has a guy sitting there whose sole job is to tabulate punches landed and we know those numbers are complete garbage and subject to manipulation.

There are no fixes to the scoring system unless you are willing to wait until the next day to let the judges analyze the fight over night and come up with a decision. Because the margin of error on a round by round basis for judges scoring the fight live is probably so large that if we were ever to find out it would destroy the credibility of the sport.

To me, boxing is the entertainment business and the decision is basically just a part of the show so fans don't walk away feeling empty. If there is a way to award the fight to the more marketable guy they will find a way to do so.

If you don't win at least 8 or 9 rounds, you have no right to complain about the decision. Because you are relying on judges to get every round correct with 100% accuracy and that is not possible.

[argentinabox22]

the forum boxing experts would expose ggg in the ring, he ducking the best forum members

[Eff Pandas]

I don't think that's possible. Fans can't even agree on whether a punch landed with slow motion replays and HD footage so how is a judge scoring the fight live at ringside with distorted views going to ever be able to score every fight with complete accuracy. Compubox has a guy sitting there whose sole job is to tabulate punches landed and we know those numbers are complete garbage and subject to manipulation.

A lot of fans are straight dummies & the rules of the sport shouldn't conform to what the dummy district of fans think matters.

And fair enough if you disagree with what I'm suggesting are the 3 definite things that should win fights cuz they aren't clear in your opinion, but surely boxing isn't like f#cking art & is 100% subjective cuz for the most part in any RBR thread the guys not trolling are in agreement on who won & usually are within a point or three of each other. That tells me something is winning fights beyond cats just flipping coins.

There are no fixes to the scoring system unless you are willing to wait until the next day to let the judges analyze the fight over night and come up with a decision. Because the margin of error on a round by round basis for judges scoring the fight live is probably so large that if we were ever to find out it would destroy the credibility of the sport.

Thats crazy with the next day thing.

And the sport has little credibility now lol. Thats why the UFC gets higher billing on most sports sites & on most sports show.

To me, boxing is the entertainment business and the decision is basically just a part of the show so fans don't walk away feeling empty. If there is a way to award the fight to the more marketable guy they will find a way to do so.

Isn't every sport like that to some degree? I mean aren't there invisible fouls committed when the higher ratings grabbing NBA or NFL team is losing & sh^t like that. To some degree some of this stuff you can't stop or be altered as easily. But there are giant holes in what fights are scored on & how the scoring works that can be improved upon to make more decisions go to the right guy than currently do & look more like scorecards of the fight we saw.

If you don't win at least 8 or 9 rounds, you have no right to complain about the decision. Because you are relying on judges to get every round correct with 100% accuracy and that is not possible.

LOL on the Dana White-ish line & honestly I don't disagree with that. If you don't KO a mfer you're putting yourself in the hands of the judges.

And judges get it right 99%+ of the time now as far as the right guy winning, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try & get it up to 99.5%+ & maybe more importantly get the scores on the scorecards making sense which happens far far far less often then the right guy winning.

[Wizardsh]

Simple solution make an unofficial winner for champion ship fights at ring side then have judges rescore the fight by re watching the fight on tape. Winner wins based on 2nd re score. This isn't rocket science and in non championship fights the loser can request a re score.

[kushking]

No ones scared of that biiitch niigga ward you delusional I can tell ydsab when you said Jacobs got robbed, and wait doesn't Jacobs have a pulse you dumb****?

He was FORCED to fight jocobs you cumdumpster, he robbed jacobs & his trainer had a press conference to say their ducking the rematch for life, so stfu you mindless drone,floyd & ward both gave & are giving rematches to their close fights & Floyds a cherrypicker but has balls unlike your coward mancrush. Your just a circle jerking fanboi:bukkake: who wants everyone to give this gstring props yet you hate on someone he ducked like a ***** @ same weight he offered to fight 51 yr old bhop. And yes EVERYONE whos not a nutjuggler says jacobs was robbed, he outlanded gstring in power shots in both total & 9 individual rds. Learn the sport ****** sambo. your another clown that uses whatever stats suit your argument,they(k2)marketed this as a GAURANTEED knockout & a GAURANTEED power shot slug fest,yet gigina was the one jabbing the entire fight & blocking like his life depended on it. He got outlanded in power shots & you clowns act like weak ass jabs are equal. Your man got hit with combos all night & was scared to throw anything but weak punches,despite his pushdown. The judges gave him 7 rds plus kd which is bs as jacobs won easily 7-8 rds counting bs kd.