Comments Thread For: Loeffler: Canelo Makes More With GGG Than He Did Mayweather

[Ray*]

Of course he would, this is stating the obvious. Canelo body of work had earned him his PPV position since losing to TBE. He has taken on fights/fighters that he could have avoided. Fighting Trout and Lara in my book shows this guy would fight anyone, now that he earned himself the "A-side" status that is so prestigious in boxing, he can make demand of his opponents, when he wasn't the A-side he had to shut up and take fights like Lara and Trout.

[b00g13man]

Duh! And water is wet.

[Ce1ska]

He was the champ at 154 and dropped to 152 and took a 10/90 split to land Floyd fight. He was the bigger draw but gave up money and first name billing and every other demand to make the cotto fight. He is going up to 164 something GGG still hasn't even done to make the chavez fight.

Again, don't make it sound like he's being forced to fight Chavez. He's moving up to 164.5 because they see Chavez as an easy target that will grow the Canelo brand.

Kirkland, khan, smith are canelo's B side opponents on his resume and they still better the most of the top names on GGG resume. In addition to those guys canelo has fought cotto, floyd, chavez, trout, mosley, lara all by the age of 26. GGG 35 and you still making excuses for why he can't make a big fight. SMH

Oh please, Lemieux and Brook would whoop those three names. Cotto and Mosley were old and past their prime. Who wouldn't fight Mayweather given the opportunity? I'll give you Lara, props to him for taking a tough fight. It's easier for Canelo to get big names to fight him because of the money. Just look at what happened with Eubanks, Sanders and Jacobs last year.

[Reloaded]

This is what kills Boxing, dragging fights because of Negotiations. Why isnt boxing strcuture like the UFC?

Because they are all free agents trying to get the biggest slice of the pie they can and boxing is driven by hype and BS, UFC has an overseer that's dictates what fighters get.

If boxing was controlled by a group of say 5 qualified persons like Judges that could decide whether an offer was reasonable and should be accepted or it should be altered in such and such way to be a fair deal for both sides.

Once that is attained have the power to enforce it or state publicly that one side does not want the fight, this could change boxing because the real guys would be fingered and the blow-hard exposed, as it stands they can come out and talk all kinds of BS to get out of making fights.

[Ce1ska]

Ggg does not have to make concessions, his fans are happy with his resume so he can continue to feed them with the same for the remaining of his career..
Canelo didnt have to make concessions for floyd. But the kid wanted that fight...

I just see it as a ***** move for Canelo to request a catchweight when he's clearly a MW.

Oscar: Canelo is a natural WW...Oh Chavez? Let's go up to 164

[bigdunny1]

Ggg does not have to make concessions, his fans are happy with his resume so he can continue to feed them with the same for the remaining of his career..
Canelo didnt have to make concessions for floyd. But the kid wanted that fight...

Bingo! judging by GGG ppv buys he don't have a lot of fans but the few he does have bought into his BS and as long as that's all he cares about and they defend his level of opposition he has no reason to give them something better. Just don't complain about him not getting bigger fights when he is the one preventing these fights by calling guys out who have NEVER fought at his weight then refusing to fight them at their weight. Or when he likely has never actually drawn even 100k ppvs. yet he out his own mouth said he wanted a 50/50 split to fight canelo who has literally drawn millions and millions of ppvs I his career. Even canelo worst ppv have drawn double to triple what GGG has done. It's laughable his requests but his idiot fans are fooled into thinking others are ducking him. A narrative that dies the longer his career goes on and we see how he refuses to give an concessions despite not being a ppv draw.

But he can stay his course and history will not be kind to him and he'll be less rich when he retires.

[Ce1ska]

It's laughable his requests but his idiot fans are fooled into thinking others are ducking him. A narrative that dies the longer his career goes on and we see how he refuses to give an concessions despite not being a ppv draw.

Oscar said the fight wouldn't happen until September 2017 last year. That's a clear duck.

[bigdunny1]

Again, don't make it sound like he's being forced to fight Chavez. He's moving up to 164.5 because they see Chavez as an easy target that will grow the Canelo brand.




Oh please, Lemieux and Brook would whoop those three names. Cotto and Mosley were old and past their prime. Who wouldn't fight Mayweather given the opportunity? I'll give you Lara, props to him for taking a tough fight. It's easier for Canelo to get big names to fight him because of the money. Just look at what happened with Eubanks, Sanders and Jacobs last year.

If its so easy to do then why at age 35 has GGG refused to ever go up or down 4 lbs to INCREASE his brand? He wont even drop a single lb LMAO Don't cry because canelo does things to land big fights that GGG refuses. He gave up weight and money name when GGG ever did either? He turned down both ward at 168 and canelo at 155 and those are the 2 biggest fights offered in his career. It's easy to say bum fighters GGG faced without half the resume of guys canelo faced would beat them. Cotto destroyed one of the best names of GGG entire resume Geale and looked better then GGG doing it. He's a hall of famer for a reason and none of the guys you named are on anyone p4p lists let alone pegged for hall of fame. Canelo has also at age 26 beaten twice as many world champions as GGG has at age 35. No matter what criteria you want to use canelo has faced and beaten higher level of competition and bigger names.

[bigdunny1]

I just see it as a ***** move for Canelo to request a catchweight when he's clearly a MW.

Oscar: Canelo is a natural WW...Oh Chavez? Let's go up to 164

Clearly a MW? He has never fought at 160 and just made 154 his last fight. The highest he has ever weighed in his entire career is 155. Stop talking out your azz. Floyd fought Oscar and cotto at 154 yet demanded 152 to canelo who was a unified 154 lb champ. That was the price to make the fight and he took it. He didn't cry about it and hope to get floyd at his own weight delaying and risking never getting the fight by making demands to the bigger A side star. He conceded to land the fight. Again don't blame others for doing what GGG refuses to do to land big fights. GGG isn't a ppv star but sure has irrational demands like one. Everyone else has to move up and down to his own weight and if you don't pay him more then the ppvs he can draw then you are the one who's ducking him LMAO

[Metho_4u]

This is what kills Boxing, dragging fights because of Negotiations. Why isnt boxing strcuture like the UFC?

Because, this isn't some bs organization where 1 guy owns all the fighters and they make next to nothing compared to high profile boxers.