James Tony, how great?

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  • Baltimore
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    #21
    Perfect timing, I've been going through a Toney kick lately, watching a lot of his fights.

    Obviously when in shape at middleweight he was amazing but even as he got fatter and fatter his ablility to shoulder roll beautifully while fighting from phone booth distances never waivered.

    ATG IMO

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    • tokon
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      #22
      Originally posted by Scholar
      Loses points for ducking Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank.
      I don't think the fact those fights never happened was down to Toney ducking them tbh.

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      • Sun_Tzu
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        #23
        Modern great but could have been an all time great had he had the right mindset. You never knew which toney was going to show up.

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        • b00g13man
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          #24
          Originally posted by Caught Square
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          Looooooooooool

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          • DinoCop
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            #25
            There ain't no logic in looking at his fights happened after even he knew he was shot and was trying to milk his name. So, the lossy part of his career shd go oıt the window.
            Imo one of the best mechanicians n technicians. (mechanician, thus a new word was created by Rovito :b )

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #26
              Originally posted by Baltimore
              Perfect timing, I've been going through a Toney kick lately, watching a lot of his fights.

              Obviously when in shape at middleweight he was amazing but even as he got fatter and fatter his ablility to shoulder roll beautifully while fighting from phone booth distances never waivered.

              ATG IMO
              How amazing was he really at middleweight?

              Struggled and arguably lost to Sanderline Williams, struggled with Merqui Sosa, struggled extremely badly with Reggie Johnson and got a gift and flat out lost and robbed Dave Tiberi.

              Got a draw with Mike McCallum that most felt he lost.

              Then his only good win at the weight against Micheal Nunn he looked like **** for most of the fight and was losing widely on the cards before pulling out the stoppage.

              I don't see the amazement.
              Last edited by IronDanHamza; 04-01-2017, 12:36 AM.

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              • BM dnobagaV
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                #27
                Modern. No hugely significant wins aside from Nunn.
                MW to HW might cement him historically though.

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                • FinitoxDinamita
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                  #28
                  There is no doubt about Toney's greatness. I rate Toney over Hopkins.

                  Hopkins couldnt carry Toney's spit bucket.

                  In terms of skills, i put toney in the top 20 all time..

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                  • TonyGe
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                    #29
                    He was a magician when he was in his prime. Amazing fighter.

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                    • satiev1
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                      #30
                      He has his flaws. He got outboxed by a 5 7 midget in montell griffin.

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