If Canelo-Golovkin Never happens.....

[Lester Tutor]

yes if you are a canelo fanboy and canelo ko's ggg in 5 years you will pretend that was a great win. fanboys will pretend anything. we already know that. thats why they are fanboys.

the fight being at 155 is a joke. you keep coming back to that for some strange reason. the fight was mandated to happen at 160 and canelo dropped the belt and fought liam smith instead. no one is going to care about what ggg said in 2012 for a fight that was supposed to happen in 2016-2017. only fanboys cherry pick and take statements out of context. that 5 year old statement is relevant now how? at the time he was trying to get a big fight. then he established himself and said he was unifying 160 but you ignore that statement and hold an older statement as gospel. its pretty silly. none of this matters of course because dropping the belt is a more obvious duck then any of your catchweight proposals.

You keep calling 155 a joke. This is boxing Sherlock. If Gennady loves to publicize dream fights with Floyd or PAC at 154 yet you say 155 is a joke only proves you're the bigger fanboy. There's nothing out of context with such statements. Your preservativation for only 160 is cheap. Brook initially wanted Golovkin at 157 and GGG mocked it saying he was a clown and his focus was at 160..."Brook... too small." Yet the public was sold Brook vs GGG at the full 160 to satisfy "160 purity" says Daggum...

Don't make this easy bro. GGG and K2 been charading too long. But "155 was a joke". You're acknowledging that Alvarez called it out and you excuse GGG, again for the preservation of 160. Practical and cheap excuses from "fanboys." Imagine if Bernard only said "Oscar needs to come to 160 only he's a clown..."

[Scipio2009]

He is young still, which is great. He could make a future where he is considered one of the greatest of all Mexican fighters.

But right now it doesn't look like he will be anything of the sort. When you think of the legit Mexican greats, there is really no way that Alvarez is heading to stand amongst them.

Part of the problem for Alvarez is that he has hit the diva part of his career too early. I squarely blame ODLH for that. But the ****** games, the catchweights, the dropping belts, all this kind of nonsense - he hasn't yet earned the credibility to do these kind of things without it affecting his legacy.

One of the hallmarks of the Mexican greats - you can call it a stereotype if you want - is that there are no other fighters who are so brave and so willing to fight. It is why boxing fans all over the world love Mexican boxers.

You have contemporary greats like Morales, Marquez and Barrera - loved, admired, respected by everyone. Go back a bit further to Chavez and even Oscar himself, and they all earned their stripes - with ODLH turning into a diva at the end.

Canelo has been badly derailed. At least if he wants to be considered one of the greatest Mexican boxers. His last couple of fights - his current diva antics and unwillingness to rise to the challenge - are the exact opposite of what has made the Mexican greats really special.

He will probably make more money this way. But boxing will be poorer for it.

Alvarez, on his resume, already has Shane Mosley (faded, tbh), Austin Trout, Alfredo Angulo (rugged Mexican battler), Erislandy Lara, Floyd Mayweather, Miguel Cotto, and solid fighters in James Kirkland and Liam Smith on the ledger (Amir Khan was a spectacle).

You add Chavez Jr, David Lemieux (I don't rate him all that highly, but folks seems to want to rate him), Timothy Bradley (another name fighter), a solid guy like Hassan N'Dam, and then taking his chances at 168lbs and you've got a real special resume coming together.