I think I understand why Joe Calzaghe is still mocked.

[robertzimmerman]

Great fighters do great things.

Archie Moore was great

Bob Foster was great.

Joe was FAR from greatness.

He underachieved due to playing it safe.

He wasn't overly ambitious.

[robertzimmerman]

In 1991, at 19, Joe Calzaghe won the ABA Welterweight title. In 1992, at 20, Joe Calzaghe won the ABA Super Welterweight title. In 1993, at 21, Joe Calzaghe won the ABA Middleweight title. He made his pro debut later that year at Super Middleweight, the division he won the WBO World title in in 1997, at 25.

He sure did.

Do you want to add anything more?

[Scary]

Joe walked around at 192-196 pounds.

He had to kill himself to make SMW.

He should have moved up years before he did.

I have never heard, seen or read such things. Only in his retirement he put on some pounds.

[daggum]

He was actually a KO puncher in the first part of his career, but he had brittle hands and had to change his way of fighting, which is pretty damn impressive.

hehe there's always someone that says this...

[daggum]

He was actually a KO puncher in the first part of his career, but he had brittle hands and had to change his way of fighting, which is pretty damn impressive.

as far as changing the way he fought...nope looks exactly the same to me. lil slap flurries. i wonder why he hurt his hands hmmm

[Scary]

as far as changing the way he fought...nope looks exactly the same to me. lil slap flurries. i wonder why he hurt his hands hmmm

You always disliked Joe and I always liked him. We've been debating him for many years, but he had a high percentage of KO's early and he did do one punch KO's. Ofcourse there was also the early stoppages, which definitely didn't look good - You don't have to post the vids.

[jmrf4435]

What another ******ed thread. I don't really consider Joe Cal "mocked" and i think B-hop will forever be mocked for going out through massive beatings by two white guys. The irony

"I will never let white boy beat me"

[robertzimmerman]

I have never heard, seen or read such things. Only in his retirement he put on some pounds.

He's always been a naturally big guy.

He should have fought at LHW many years before he eventually moved up in 2008. What was the point in him literally starving himself to defend his lightly regarded WBO belt at SMW?

There's a lot of online links where he refers to his weight. Below are just a handful:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/3511643.stm

http://www.coachmag.co.uk/exercises/1537/joe-calzaghe

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...-calzaghe-food

[Kigali]

He underachieved due to playing it safe.

He wasn't overly ambitious.

Therefore....not great.

[Kigali]

]He was actually a KO puncher in the first part of his career,[/B] but he had brittle hands and had to change his way of fighting, which is pretty damn impressive.

Stop lying you p*ssy.