Why did K2 want a 164 "catch," but no 157 or 155 catch? Brook Alvarez

[OnePunch]

For a guy who failed Boxing 101 promotional work it is understandable to confuse K2 (a promotional team) with "this man." "This man" handling negotiations as Loeffler correct? Don't get soft on a boxing forum.

we get it. You're not a fan.

Move on in life.

[Lester Tutor]

we get it. You're not a fan.

Move on in life.

sinple question... Could Gennady beat Alvarez at 155 when he was challenged to grab the belt? Did Bernard cry about doing the catch with Oscar? Bernard wanted to prove he was the best no matter what. What did Bernard achieve by doing so?

[Diegosome1]

sinple question... Could Gennady beat Alvarez at 155 when he was challenged to grab the belt? Did Bernard cry about doing the catch with Oscar? Bernard wanted to prove he was the best no matter what. What did Bernard achieve by doing so?

Just let it go lol. No one cares about Bernard.

[Lester Tutor]

Just let it go lol. No one cares about Bernard.

What do you mean? Bernard is a gangsta in the GBP outfit. Word on the street Bernard ran up to Loeffler and asked, "whatchoo say bout my mama? You gun take that money boy...I'll never let a white promoter beat me." Loeffler got teary and said "but but I can sell you a flat in East LA if you need one!"

[OnePunch]

sinple question... Could Gennady beat Alvarez at 155 when he was challenged to grab the belt? Did Bernard cry about doing the catch with Oscar? Bernard wanted to prove he was the best no matter what. What did Bernard achieve by doing so?

Dont kid yourself. He did it for the limelight and the $$$$$$$$$$$$


And for the record, Canelo fight was NEVER offered at 155, no matter how many times you tell that lie. Sure, I have no doubt that it would have been rejected anyways, but its simply ignorant to act as if that fight was ever on the table

[Curt Henning]

Ward called out Li'l floyd for a fight at 160. If big Andre would go down to 160 for Floyd, why wouldn't he go to 164 for GGG?

heres the difference. ive had to explain this many times to many idiots over on another board

golovkin has had his promoter mention zurdo and degale several times. golovkin has put his name on ink for fights with froch and chavez at 168. hes mentioned 168 many times. even just recently. his trainer has said that would be his best weight. so golovkin fighting a guy like ward at 168 is completely plausible/realistic. especially andre ward since ward was known as the man at 168

now heres the problem with floyd/ward at 160. floyd has never tried to make a fight with a 160 fighter. never once put his name to ink to fight one. in fact hes said several times 160 is too far. "everyone has limits". and has said he wouldnt go there. thus making ward/floyd pure fantasy

you must seperate fantasy from reality. i know its not easy for golovkin fans to do. but you must in order to have a logical debate.

[Lester Tutor]

Dont kid yourself. He did it for the limelight and the $$$$$$$$$$$$


And for the record, Canelo fight was NEVER offered at 155, no matter how many times you tell that lie. Sure, I have no doubt that it would have been rejected anyways, but its simply ignorant to act as if that fight was ever on the table

What do you mean was never offered? There's no theory involved with this Terry. There's video of Alvarez in 2015 saying that if GGG wanted the belt he could come and get it at 155 and from that video industry forwarded with it. Abel too on video said only at 160, and Suleiman acknowledged it furthermore for industry that it had to be at 160.

This is why they vacated you nunce. But of course Gennady wants a dream fight with Floyd or Pacific at 154... cmom dude you're not gullible you just choose to root for the pink team and overlook Aside business son!

Clockwork dude!

And you flopped what I said about Bernard. He wanted to beat the Golden Boy. How else are you going to convince his following you nunce?

[kafkod]

heres the difference. ive had to explain this many times to many idiots over on another board

golovkin has had his promoter mention zurdo and degale several times. golovkin has put his name on ink for fights with froch and chavez at 168. hes mentioned 168 many times. even just recently. his trainer has said that would be his best weight. so golovkin fighting a guy like ward at 168 is completely plausible/realistic. especially andre ward since ward was known as the man at 168

now heres the problem with floyd/ward at 160. floyd has never tried to make a fight with a 160 fighter. never once put his name to ink to fight one. in fact hes said several times 160 is too far. "everyone has limits". and has said he wouldnt go there. thus making ward/floyd pure fantasy

you must seperate fantasy from reality. i know its not easy for golovkin fans to do. but you must in order to have a logical debate.

What do you mean by putting his name on ink? If you are talking about sending offers to people, the only offer GGG ever sent for a fight at 168 was to Chavez in 2012. And he also told HBO he was ready to fight Ward at 168 back then, but Ward wasn't ready for him.

GGG never sent Ward any offer to fight at a CW. All he did was say that 50/50 money and weight would be fair, when asked about it by a reporter.

And Golovkin never said he would only fight Ward at 164. When Ward sent Loeffler an offer for GGG to move up to SMW for him, Loeffler responded to that by telling him GGG would be focused on 160 throughout 2016, so if he wanted to fight at 168, he should get back to them in 2017.

I shouldn't need to be telling you any of this, if you've been following the story via articles and news reports, not just reading comments at sites posted by people who know no more about it than you do.

[Curt Henning]

What do you mean by putting his name on ink? If you are talking about sending offers to people, the only offer GGG ever sent for a fight at 168 was to Chavez in 2012. And he also told HBO he was ready to fight Ward at 168 back then, but Ward wasn't ready for him.

GGG never sent Ward any offer to fight at a CW. All he did was say that 50/50 money and weight would be fair, when asked about it by a reporter.

And Golovkin never said he would only fight Ward at 164. When Ward sent Loeffler an offer for GGG to move up to SMW for him, Loeffler responded to that by telling him GGG would be focused on 160 throughout 2016, so if he wanted to fight at 168, he should get back to them in 2017.

I shouldn't need to be telling you any of this, if you've been following the story via articles and news reports, not just reading comments at sites posted by people who know no more about it than you do.

lol you saying "but ward wasnt ready for him". thats a joke in itself.

when you tell ward, who is heading to 175 in the event u wont fight him, "nah were busy in 2016..maybe in 2017" you might as well say we "were all set...we want u to go to 175 and go away so we dont have to fight you"

i made my point clear about ggg/ward and floyd/ward..one was realistic. ggg has mentioned 168 many times and put his name on a contract to chavez. hes floated the names of froch(many times...still till this day) zurdo and degale along with some others.

floyd has flat out said he wouldnt go to 160. period. end of story. one is fantasy. one was realistic. its clear you dont live here in reality with your "bu bu but ward said hed go to 160 to fight floyd so why couldnt he do 164". have a good one lil man

[kafkod]

What do you mean was never offered? There's no theory involved with this Terry. There's video of Alvarez in 2015 saying that if GGG wanted the belt he could come and get it at 155 and from that video industry forwarded with it. Abel too on video said only at 160, and Suleiman acknowledged it furthermore for industry that it had to be at 160.

This is why they vacated you nunce. But of course Gennady wants a dream fight with Floyd or Pacific at 154... cmom dude you're not gullible you just choose to root for the pink team and overlook Aside business son!

Clockwork dude!

And you flopped what I said about Bernard. He wanted to beat the Golden Boy. How else are you going to convince his following you nunce?

There is also a video of Canelo standing in a boxing ring in 2016 with a mic in his hand telling the crowd that weight was no issue .. he would fight Golovkin at 160 "tomorrow"

Where does that fit into your warped version of reality?