Why did K2 want a 164 "catch," but no 157 or 155 catch? Brook Alvarez

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  • Lester Tutor
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    Why did K2 want a 164 "catch," but no 157 or 155 catch? Brook Alvarez

    Do u need to be a star to get permission from K2 for a catch? I mean, what's the catch!?
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    #2
    Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
    Do u need to be a star to get permission from K2 for a catch? I mean, what's the catch!?
    They insisted upon 164 for a Ward fight knowing Ward would be shyte house lucky to make 168 and 164 was out of the question. They could act like they were interested in a Ward fight but wouldn't actually have to fight him. Clear duck. Can't speak on the other.

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      #3
      Lomachenko would probably stop Salido in a rematch. Mikey G. and Linares are the real threats. Honestly not sure if he is ready to move up again and fight them. Their weight and power may be too much for him at the moment. He should probably take an easy fight at 135 to fet accustomed to the weight before fighting either man.

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        #4
        The 164 was in response to Ward demanding 50/50 split, as stated by Loeffler in mid 2015 (June or July iirc). By that time, the fight was already dead with Golovkin telling Ward he's dead to him. When the fight was actually seriously discussed, late 2014-early 2015, there were no catchweights.

        For Brook, he didn't push it that hard and just wanted the money. Didn't make too much stink out of it.

        For Alvarez, Golovkin was mandatory and didn't have to accept a catchweight, so they stood their ground. That's one of the priviliges he worked for.

        Been over this 2000x times already.

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          #5
          Originally posted by j0zef
          The 164 was in response to Ward demanding 50/50 split, as stated by Loeffler in mid 2015 (June or July iirc). By that time, the fight was already dead with Golovkin telling Ward he's dead to him. When the fight was actually seriously discussed, late 2014-early 2015, there were no catchweights.

          For Brook, he didn't push it that hard and just wanted the money. Didn't make too much stink out of it.

          For Alvarez, Golovkin was mandatory and didn't have to accept a catchweight, so they stood their ground. That's one of the priviliges he worked for.

          Been over this 2000x times already.
          What a minute... you're saying that Loeffler taunted "164" because Ward wanted 50/50?!!

          Lol

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            #6
            Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
            What a minute... you're saying that Loeffler taunted "164" because Ward wanted 50/50?!!

            Lol
            Ward called out Li'l floyd for a fight at 160. If big Andre would go down to 160 for Floyd, why wouldn't he go to 164 for GGG?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
              What a minute... you're saying that Loeffler taunted "164" because Ward wanted 50/50?!!

              Lol
              Yes. Been saying that for a long time. Link:

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                the better question is what sort of trauma did this man put you through that he consumes your entire being?

                Its funny sometimes, but dude you are taking it to the "creepy" level, like one of those guys standing in Taylor Swifts bushes at 5am or something......

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  Ward called out Li'l floyd for a fight at 160. If big Andre would go down to 160 for Floyd, why wouldn't he go to 164 for GGG?
                  Unfortunately Ward responded to that out of context report too. Whereas Gennady hides in his room as K2 exploited 164. I'll let you dwell on who asked for 164...Gennady the non politics whisperer, or Abel...

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by OnePunch
                    the better question is what sort of trauma did this man put you through that he consumes your entire being?

                    Its funny sometimes, but dude you are taking it to the "creepy" level, like one of those guys standing in Taylor Swifts bushes at 5am or something......
                    For a guy who failed Boxing 101 promotional work it is understandable to confuse K2 (a promotional team) with "this man." "This man" handling negotiations as Loeffler correct? Don't get soft on a boxing forum.

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