Comments Thread For: Saunders Smiles: Let Everyone Doubt Me, I Can Beat Golovkin!

[REYESdelBOXEO]

[QUOTE=IRONCHINHAGLER;17542925]Per ESPN - GGG #1 p4p!!!! Deal with it!![/

I just gave you a list comprised of more credible and respected boxing experts then the ones then ESPN voting panel had.
The ESPN panel had Teddy Atlas Joe Cortez & Dan Rafael:

-Teddy Atlas didn't even have GGG on his Top 10

-Joe Cortez has GGG at #1 & CANELO at #2 and is on Record saying CANELO will beat GGG when they fight.

-Dan Rafael had GGG #1 , but remember Dan was also one of the guy's to report that GGG turned down fights vs. CANELO at 160 pounds for $10M & then $15M.


CANELO dominated his last 3 opponents Smith-KO/Khan-KO/Cotto-Schooling.

While GGG had 3 underwhelming fights in his last three. All while turning down fights vs. Top Fighter's at his self proclaimed weight fighting limits of 154-168.

GGG was all for the CANELO fight inside the ring after the Jacobs controversial decision , 10 minutes later he says he wants Billy Joe Saunders. HAHAHA!

What happened to CANELO vs. GGG in Sept.?
(Golovkin lost his pen)

[Progrssive_Jedi]

And the ConChavez fight is going to SHATTER GGG/Jacobs 170K PPV Buys. If they do 1 million buys there's your split right there...

83/17 Split.

Huh, you're pretending Canelo team actually plans on fighting ggg. Not long ago DeLa Hoya said contracts can't be signed until after the Chavez fight. Suddenly they can't be signed at all. Everyone knew what they were up to. If a c,one fight means you're less worthy, Canelo has a few controversial wins.

Golovkin appears to be moving forward with his career despite Canelo waiting as long as possible to fight him. 33, 34 was too young. 35 is too young. And Now ggg will ge almost 36 by the time he fights this September. Canelo still not pulling trigger.

Everything else is just excuses.

You do relaize GGG brought Brook up to the FULL 160lbs right?? You do know that Brook is a 147 Welterweight??

Are you really contending Khan was a better match up. Canelo brought up a glass jawed WW (with only three 147 fights, none dominant wins) who had been KO'd by guys at 135/140. Canelo did this when he could have fought anyone, had no reason to make that fight at all.

GGG didn't aim for Brook, in fact rightly takes **** for saying he didn't want it. But Eubanks pulled his **** and Go,IV kin already wasted time. Brooks was undefeated at had fought as high as JRMW.

Canelo chose his opponent and put it on ppv. GGG took his as a nessasity to stay active. Because his opposition wants him inactive as much as possible.

A tactics that De La Hoya and Canelo are trying. One of the reasons they want to use the ggg/Suanders fight to duck GGG yet again.

[Shadoww702]

Huh, you're pretending Canelo team actually plans on fighting ggg. Not long ago DeLa Hoya said contracts can't be signed until after the Chavez fight. Suddenly they can't be signed at all. Everyone knew what they were up to. If a c,one fight means you're less worthy, Canelo has a few controversial wins.

Golovkin appears to be moving forward with his career despite Canelo waiting as long as possible to fight him. 33, 34 was too young. 35 is too young. And Now ggg will ge almost 36 by the time he fights this September. Canelo still not pulling trigger.

Everything else is just excuses.



Are you really contending Khan was a better match up. Canelo brought up a glass jawed WW (with only three 147 fights, none dominant wins) who had been KO'd by guys at 135/140. Canelo did this when he could have fought anyone, had no reason to make that fight at all.

GGG didn't aim for Brook, in fact rightly takes **** for saying he didn't want it. But Eubanks pulled his **** and Go,IV kin already wasted time. Brooks was undefeated at had fought as high as JRMW.

Canelo chose his opponent and put it on ppv. GGG took his as a nessasity to stay active. Because his opposition wants him inactive as much as possible.

A tactics that De La Hoya and Canelo are trying. One of the reasons they want to use the ggg/Suanders fight to duck GGG yet again.

Too be fair GGG made the best out of a VERY bad situation. But I also have no doubt Canelo and GGG fight within the next 6-14 months. I'll even take you points if your willing to lose them???

[Progrssive_Jedi]

[QUOTE=REYESdelBOXEO;17543388]

Per ESPN - GGG #1 p4p!!!! Deal with it!![/

CANELO dominated his last 3 opponents Smith-KO/Khan-KO/Cotto-Schooling.

While GGG had 3 underwhelming fights in his last three. All while turning down fights vs. Top Fighter's at his self proclaimed weight fighting limits of 154-168.

First, how do you turn down a fight that at earliest the opponent wouldn't do for a year or more. It's called negotiations. It's obvious K2 wanted the fight in 2015. Now De La Hoya is again looking to sabotage it if ggg fights a few weeks after Canelo. So let's not pretend that negotiating is turning down the fight.

Canelo didn't dominate Cotto. And really, Smith and Khan. So ggg struggled with Brook and Canelo dominated Khan. GTFOH.

Both Brook and Jacobs beat the living shiiiit out of all three of them, Cotto and Smith, goid lord. And what would 180+ pound Jacobs do to Khan. Pffft!

Canelo wouldn't ever fight a Jacobs caliber fighter with Jacobs having that kind of an advantage. He won't even fight a non drained Chavez who hasn't looked good since 2012. Jacobs would best Canelo to a pulp.

And how the hell did ggg struggle with either Wade or Brook, he knocked both out in the first five rounds. And the Jabos fight wasn't that controversial, not as much as Canelo v Lara or others.

Wade 2R KO, Brook 5RTKO, and Jacobs 12Rd decision. Not one if Canelo opponent of the three were prime level opposition who had at least 10 poumdsbon Canelo.

In fact, Canelo almost always plays the weight game.

[Shadoww702]

[QUOTE=Progrssive_Jedi;17543421]

First, how do you turn down a fight that at earliest the opponent wouldn't do for a year or more. It's called negotiations. It's obvious K2 wanted the fight in 2015. Now De La Hoya is again looking to sabotage it if ggg fights a few weeks after Canelo. So let's not pretend that negotiating is turning down the fight.

Canelo didn't dominate Cotto. And really, Smith and Khan. So ggg struggled with Brook and Canelo dominated Khan. GTFOH.

Both Brook and Jacobs beat the living shiiiit out of all three of them, Cotto and Smith, goid lord. And what would 180+ pound Jacobs do to Khan. Pffft!

Canelo wouldn't ever fight a Jacobs caliber fighter with Jacobs having that kind of an advantage. He won't even fight a non drained Chavez who hasn't looked good since 2012. Jacobs would best Canelo to a pulp.

And how the hell did ggg struggle with either Wade or Brook, he knocked both out in the first five rounds. And the Jabos fight wasn't that controversial, not as much as Canelo v Lara or others.

Wade 2R KO, Brook 5RTKO, and Jacobs 12Rd decision. Not one if Canelo opponent of the three were prime level opposition who had at least 10 poumdsbon Canelo.

In fact, Canelo almost always plays the weight game.

Now your just being ******. Jacobs would = Trout but with less skill and more power. Brook??? Holy SHT I would bet Canelo ALL day and every day. I probably give Khan vs. Brook a 40/60 chance. You dumb man. Lara and Trout were BOTH ranked in the P4P Top 20 unlike Jacobs. I don't even think Jacobs would beat Chavez.

[Shadoww702]

[QUOTE=Progrssive_Jedi;17543421]

First, how do you turn down a fight that at earliest the opponent wouldn't do for a year or more. It's called negotiations. It's obvious K2 wanted the fight in 2015. Now De La Hoya is again looking to sabotage it if ggg fights a few weeks after Canelo. So let's not pretend that negotiating is turning down the fight.

Canelo didn't dominate Cotto. And really, Smith and Khan. So ggg struggled with Brook and Canelo dominated Khan. GTFOH.

Both Brook and Jacobs beat the living shiiiit out of all three of them, Cotto and Smith, goid lord. And what would 180+ pound Jacobs do to Khan. Pffft!

Canelo wouldn't ever fight a Jacobs caliber fighter with Jacobs having that kind of an advantage. He won't even fight a non drained Chavez who hasn't looked good since 2012. Jacobs would best Canelo to a pulp.

And how the hell did ggg struggle with either Wade or Brook, he knocked both out in the first five rounds. And the Jabos fight wasn't that controversial, not as much as Canelo v Lara or others.

Wade 2R KO, Brook 5RTKO, and Jacobs 12Rd decision. Not one if Canelo opponent of the three were prime level opposition who had at least 10 poumdsbon Canelo.

In fact, Canelo almost always plays the weight game.

You know what F'n does the weight game??? Mr. 154-168 without EVER doing it!!!

So FU LIAR

[Progrssive_Jedi]

So Canelo Truly is the New Floyd (built on saying he wasn't)

Too be fair GGG made the best out of a VERY bad situation. But I also have no doubt Canelo and GGG fight within the next 6-14 months. I'll even take you points if your willing to lose them???

I remember not that long ago when Canelo and De La Hoya kept saying they were not like other fighters. Not Floyd. De La Hoya even went as far as to say Floyd ducked every major test by waiting on age to diminish his opposition.

And here we are. I also believe Canelo will wait until GGG is past 36 to fight him. I hope if Canelo refuses this September GGG let's that stain stay with Canelo.

No one can figure out why Boxing is losing its luster. When the so-called top guy so clearly ducks an opponent he kept promising his fans he'd fight, what else was going to happen.

I'll laugh if at 36 GGG still skunks Canelo anyways.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

You know what F'n does the weight game??? Mr. 154-168 without EVER doing it!!!

So FU LIAR

Come on man, I get it's a sore spot. Canelo is the king of weight bullies. He can't even fight Chavez without severely draining him.

Let me know when Canelo fights a top fighter in his class who he doesn't have 10, 15, 20 pounds on.

Then you'll have a valid point. Until then, we can celebrate he KO Amir Khan and Smith!

That and pretend he has any intention of fighting even a 35 year old GGG.

[Real Talk85]

2 things.

GGG didn't look that great against Jacob's because Jacob's is strong and can hurt him and he can box very well. What we saw was GGG use his jab and ring IQ to win a close decision.

Saunders I believe boxes better than both. Jacob's and GGG but he is to weak and small to keep GGG off enough to score without getting knocked out. Saunders can inside fight but I fear a few rounds of short body hooks will put an end to that.

[PunchyPotorff]

Saunders is a better boxer than most think, but if you are going to fight on the backfoot against ggg you need some power to stop him walking straight forward and saunders doesnt have that.

Saunders has more pop than most give him credit for. He's dropped a few fighters, Lee included. I realize Lee isn't GGG, that triangle rectangular semi-spherical holographic theories rarely work, but BJS will likely baffle GGG for several rounds, win or lose.