Comments Thread For: Who Is The Number One "Pound For Pound" Boxer Now?

[aboutfkntime]

yep, who cares what happened back then, under that particular set of circumstances

if ALL things were equal (BOTH fighters naturally the same size), and they fought now..... who would win

also, not meaning Loma/Salido..... but losing to one particular fighter because of style, does not remove you from the list if you likely clean out the rest..... it is across the board, not strictly head-to-head

that is why Pac is still up there

[aboutfkntime]

Yes and Ward has fought one decent fighter in 5 years, a very decent one tough.
And most people thought he lost.

That what you can call a robbery, when you won on cards BUT most people (see polls) thought you lost, people and writers from your fckin own country.

Ward doesn't deserve to be P4P number one.

That thai guy was a solid dude, choco fighting at superfly is like Ward fighting at 200.

Let's see how can Ward manage a lefty cruiser like Glowacky.

Choco has been beating top dudes in 4 divisions over the last years while Ward was drinking sodas in Okland and fighting the Brand of the world.

it's like you guys have no idea what P4P criteria is

if ALL things were equal, who would win ?

" ALL " in boxing, means weight.....

so it is based solely on style/form, NOT on resume..... so obviously NOT on current resume

yes, current resume speaks well, but it is not qualifying criteria for traditional P4P consideration

so, yes you can have Spence on your list - despite the fact that he has beaten NOBODY - IF you think he can win head-to-head (if ALL things are equal)..... I don't, yet..... because I haven't seen enough from him..... which is where a healthier resume would obviously help him, but with fighters like Loma you should be able to see whats up

for proof.....

the day that Mayweather was crowned #1 P4P..... what had changed with Mayweather as a fighter to suddenly elevate him to the #1 spot? how was he better than one year earlier when he was unrecognized?

ANSWER: nothing, he was the exact same fighter..... if you had him ranked P4P one year earlier (like I did with Loma) then you are smart and understand the game, especially levels/styles

for additional proof.....
if P4P is based on resume, then explain to me how Golovkin could possibly be ranked P4P?..... and yet, I have him in my top 10

for even more additional proof.....
the best current resume, is Manny Pacquiao, by MILES..... but, are we gonna rank him #1?

I had Loma on my list well over a year ago, and YES I have stated that on numerous occasions, based solely on style/form

[aboutfkntime]

P4P is soooooo over-rated

LOTS of P4P fighters lost to guys who weren't ranked LMAO

[MantisToboggan]

Who did GGG beat? Jacobs, who is not even in the P4P list. Who beat Chocolatito the ex-P4P king? Rungvisai the new king of boxing.

By your "not smart" logic then Carlos Cuadras is a p4p because he beat your Rungvisai ??????

[Marqroidzcrying]

PACQUIAO is still and always be the real and true P4P GREATEST RING BOXER FIGHTER OF ALL GENERATIONS THE GREATEST AND ONLY 8TH DIVISIONS AND 1ST EVER 4TH LINEAL WORLD CHAMP IN 13 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS BELT and FLIYDIE DUCK JR only 5TH DIVISIONS FROM HUGGING RUNNING STYLE OF CLEVERING FIGHTS!!! PACQUIAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WILL ALWAYS BE THE GREATEST SOUTHPAW OF ALL TIME AND THE GREATEST AND MOST EXCITING FIGHTER TO WATCH WORLD WIDE RECOGNIZED...FIGHTING OUTSIDE OF HIS OWN BACKYARD UNLIKE GAYWEATHER UGLYDUCKFLOYD JR WHOS 100% OF HIS ENTIRE FIGHTS ONLY TOOK PLACE INSIDE OF HIS PAID JUDGES HOMETOWN DECISION OF MOB VEGAS BABY LOL...LOL...LOL...AMERICAN MAFIA BABY

[Marqroidzcrying]

Bring.on your overhyped Cuadras your lousy soft Chocolate that is now melted hahahahahahahahaha...bring every lousy soft latinos and JOHNRIEL CASIMERO will easily eats them all...CASIMERO fought and won it all in Mexico Argentina UK AFRICA THAILAND MACAU CHINA he is the real deal one of the greatest figjter in the lower weight division in the history of Boxing your Cuadras will suffer his greatest sleeping pills from the hands of JOHNRIEL CASIMERO MARK MY WORDS IDIOT

[aboutfkntime]

the Loma/Garcia talk is interesting, and the guys who have stated that fight will determine a future P4P king, could be right..... but I think it will play out a little differently

I have Loma ranked as a future P4P king because he is Loma

I think that Garcia will move up, and the Crawford/Garcia winner will be the big P4P mover

would not be surprised at all to see Loma/Garcia #1/#2, however which way they are ranked

the question could be..... does the phenomenally skilled, more well-rounded, Lomachenko..... top the highly technically, textbook perfect, boxer-puncher, Garcia

I see Lomachenko having more in his arsenal to overcome a wider range of opponents more easily than Garcia..... but Garcia having the solid technical proficiency to snipe even highly dangerous opponents, possibly even Loma himself

..... not so much head-to-head, just if all things were equal..... Garcia is bigger than Loma

Lomachenko is a phenom, but Garcia is truly elite and could be right in that conversation depending on how things play out

I see a lot of potential movement on the current P4P list over the next 18-24 months..... along with a few retiring, Pac, Ward, Golovkin, Kovalev

[MC Hammer]

People who state "Ward is P4P #1 after moving up to LHW division and beating Kovalev"...

forgot that Ward was USA Amateur LHW Champion in 2003 at the age of 19. For comparison, at 19 Golovkin was fighting in WW division as an amateur.

Hey Alt, you're forgetting that the amateurs are a completely different beast than the pros. Bradley and Ward fought in the amateurs for gods sake. Tournaments and same day weigh-ins ensure that every fighter has to stay closer to walk around weight.

[Metho_4u]

it's like you guys have no idea what P4P criteria is

if ALL things were equal, who would win ?

" ALL " in boxing, means weight.....

so it is based solely on style/form, NOT on resume..... so obviously NOT on current resume

yes, current resume speaks well, but it is not qualifying criteria for traditional P4P consideration

so, yes you can have Spence on your list - despite the fact that he has beaten NOBODY - IF you think he can win head-to-head (if ALL things are equal)..... I don't, yet..... because I haven't seen enough from him..... which is where a healthier resume would obviously help him, but with fighters like Loma you should be able to see whats up

for proof.....

the day that Mayweather was crowned #1 P4P..... what had changed with Mayweather as a fighter to suddenly elevate him to the #1 spot? how was he better than one year earlier when he was unrecognized?

ANSWER: nothing, he was the exact same fighter..... if you had him ranked P4P one year earlier (like I did with Loma) then you are smart and understand the game, especially levels/styles

for additional proof.....
if P4P is based on resume, then explain to me how Golovkin could possibly be ranked P4P?..... and yet, I have him in my top 10

for even more additional proof.....
the best current resume, is Manny Pacquiao, by MILES..... but, are we gonna rank him #1?

I had Loma on my list well over a year ago, and YES I have stated that on numerous occasions, based solely on style/form

This...hey NYG?

Are you paying attention here since I owned your azz on this very topic..

[lex_fugitive]

Ward is the clear #1, no matter how bad it hurts Gtards. Cleaned out 168, did nothing for three years, came back and beat #1 LHW and a top 3 p4p opponent. G barely got by Jacobs, who is not a p4p fighter at all. Chocolates was over-rated, he has some questionable decisions and has refused to fight the best competition. Ward goes after the very best. Froch, Kessler, Dawson, Kovalev, etc. etc. While G runs from Canelo and anyone else good, while Chocolates ducks rematches with Estrada and Cuadras, and Ward beat Krusher. There is no question, it just hurts those who worship G, but they will learn to live with it... They already have once when Floyd beat Pac, now their hero has been humbled and his arch-rival Ward is p4p king.