GGG vs Hagler

[HeadShots]

so what...Jones started at 154 and was knocking out lightheavyweights

If his power is as potent as the media made it out to be, surely he should have hurt Jacobs more often, let alone a domestic level fighter almost going the full 12 like Murray, hit shot kassim ouma with everything but the kitchen sink for 10+ rounds but he stops an all time great like Hagler? yea right

Jones is a proven PED cheat.

[therealpugilist]

Jones is a proven PED cheat.

smdh


you idiot..he took a legal substance, from over the counter...ripped fuel....it had trace amounts of a band substance and that Jones "cheating" crap has been debunked 100x times over....damn do you ever get tired of trying to discredit fighters that you dont suck off?


Mike Mccallum turned pro at 154 and won title at 175 and 160

Michael Nunn 160,168

hell even Hearns got kos from 147-190

the list goes on


Benn and Eubank at 160,168...the list goes on

GGG just isnt the fighter the media and his ****suckers want him to be....its ok...he is a very good fighter...he just isnt a monster or ATG....deal with it.

[Irony123]

...you do realize hagler didn't get the big fights until he was something like 60 fights in...thats two careers for the average fighter today...ggg is what?, 37 fights in, he want to be compared to hagler he got some more work to put in...

we live in a different world now, very few fighters fight 4+ times a year, GGG is one of the few, also unlike Hagler GGG (which seems to be common with Cuban and eastern European fighters) had a longer amateur career and started in the pros later, Hagler retired younger than what GGG is now and had almost 30 fights in the first 3 years of his career... no fighter (except maybe a few Mexican fighters) have that now period.

[-Kev-]

jacobs beats all those guys. period. and fact remains haglers biggest win is against a lightweight. but ggg gets endless criticism for fighting a gigantic welterweight who has no business at 147.. put it like this brook whoops duran at 160.

Jacobs would be too big, too strong, too tall, too athletic for any of those guys including slow plodder Hagler.

Brook beat Duran at 160? I disagree, Brook beats Duran anywhere from 147-160 plus he beats the Fab 4.

Hearns weak chin wouldn't last 12 rounds vs Jacobs.

[Clint Easthood]

There was no 168 back then. Leonard, Hearns, Duran were all-time greats why not fight them instead of fighting at Light-Heavyweight? You shouldn't give GGG credit for cleaning up 175 yet he hasn't done that yet.

How long have you watched Boxing? Casual newbie fans are fixated by this hopping weight class cherry picking stuff. If you can make the weight and there's guys in your division still, why the need to always move up?

Hearns postponed a fight in 1982 with Hagler, made him wait until 1985. Leonard did something similar. Just because you don't know that era and started watching Boxing recently doesn't mean your an authority on it. Sure, GGG has been avoided, but Hagler had it very hard just to get a title shot and was very avoided. I'd list the name of guys that avoided him and some that were forced into fighting him but you wouldn't know or care anyway. GGG got an interim title and then started knocking fools out.

lets be honest here... ggg would run through haglers resume undefeated. be real. you dont think chinny hearns would get folded in half by a ggg right hand? you think leonard would be running in circles against ggg who can cut the ring something Hagler couldn't do. you think duran would be calling ggg a b*tch after fighting him? people letting this jacobs fight fool them. nobody else is gonna have 20 lb advantage on ggg. that version of jacobs would also run through haglers resume. people say he was a switch hitter..so. when jacobs switched to southpaw he got dropped. ggg is way more precise with his shots than hagler. i would be more inclined to say Hopkins would beat ggg in a ugly clinch fest fight. but Hagler not beating ggg he dont have Hopkins IQ.

[djtmal]

we live in a different world now, very few fighters fight 4+ times a year, GGG is one of the few, also unlike Hagler GGG (which seems to be common with Cuban and eastern European fighters) had a longer amateur career and started in the pros later, Hagler retired younger than what GGG is now and had almost 30 fights in the first 3 years of his career... no fighter (except maybe a few Mexican fighters) have that now period.

hagler was put in tough his whole career...didn't have the luxury of cherrypicking....best wins are against atgs heanrs and duran....all losses and draws avenged except for srl...62 wins (52 kos) 3 losses 2 draws...12 title defenses of the undisputed mw title, not fragments of the belts...i'll be watching ggg though...

[Irony123]

hagler was put in tough his whole career...didn't have the luxury of cherrypicking....best wins are against atgs heanrs and duran....all losses and draws avenged except for srl...62 wins (52 kos) 3 losses 2 draws...12 title defenses of the undisputed mw title, not fragments of the belts...i'll be watching ggg though...

I have the outmost respect for Hagler, but imagine GGG fighting career WWs.

Duran - most fights at 147 or lower
SRL - most fights at 147 or lower
Hearn - most fights at 147 or 154

Great names but imagine GGG fighting Floyed or Paqiou who are ATGs, most don't give Floyed or pac a chance a chance, GGG would walk through floyed defense and cut the ring on him, and he would surely walk through pacqiou too much size difference in my opinion.

I've browsed through Haglers record and more than half his fights are littered with guys who have losing records. Even after he hit the 40 fight mark he was still fighting guys like Willie Warren (44-38-3), Bob Patterson (12-7-2), Jamie Thomas (10-5-0). Again this isn't to downgrade Hagler, it is put the different era's in perspective, and the bias that makes current fans always lean towards old fighters vs. new fighters.

[chrisJS]

lets be honest here... ggg would run through haglers resume undefeated. be real. you dont think chinny hearns would get folded in half by a ggg right hand? you think leonard would be running in circles against ggg who can cut the ring something Hagler couldn't do. you think duran would be calling ggg a b*tch after fighting him? people letting this jacobs fight fool them. nobody else is gonna have 20 lb advantage on ggg. that version of jacobs would also run through haglers resume. people say he was a switch hitter..so. when jacobs switched to southpaw he got dropped. ggg is way more precise with his shots than hagler. i would be more inclined to say Hopkins would beat ggg in a ugly clinch fest fight. but Hagler not beating ggg he dont have Hopkins IQ.

I think Hagler would have a very easy time with what GGG has been faced with. Jacobs would be easy work. You probably know nothing about Benny Briscoe but he'd have been a top champion in most era's too bad he had to contend with guys like Monzon. Hagler had to go to Philly to beat him just to get a ranking, Different times, harder times. I think he's better than Lemiuex for instance. MUCH BETTER.

I'd also favor GGG in individual matchups against most of Hagler's opponents but if you fight the top guys he fought in quantity he may come up worse than Hagler. I'm not sure "chinny" Hearns loses to GGG. Wasn't Jacobs "chinny"? I think that's a competitive fight that an all-time great like Hearns is more than capable of winning. Same goes for ATG Duran. He'd compete with GGG. Sure, he's not on a middleweight and I realize what that means - on paper, but Duran is clearly one of the top 10 fighters of all-time and had some great wins between 154-160. Moore and Barkley trump any GGG win for instance.

Leonard got a lucky call against an old Hagler and I know Hagler was the same age as GGG but please don't show your ignorance and act like 35 in 1987 is the same as today. Also, I'm not so sure GGG beats that Leonard. We've not seen him at that level - yet.

I'm a fan of both I just think it's pathetic to bring down a universally accepted all-time great to bring up your mancrush. Just as I think it's pathetic people trying to bring GGG down when he's been a dominant, ass kicking champion.

[Kigali]

Jones is a proven PED cheat.

You're an immigration cheat.

[Kigali]

Jacobs would be too big, too strong, too tall, too athletic for any of those guys including slow plodder Hagler.

Brook beat Duran at 160? I disagree, Brook beats Duran anywhere from 147-160 plus he beats the Fab 4.

Hearns weak chin wouldn't last 12 rounds vs Jacobs.

Get your oily ass off the computer