Who would you have as # 1 p4p and why if not ward?

[Mukuro]

On accomplishment and form, Ward has a strong case for number one. I put Loma above just for the fact that he fights at a higher level. No comparison in terms of achievements though.

If his win against Kovalev was clear, he'd be undeniable. I had him losing though, which counts a little against him. Still deserves credit for taking on and getting the nod against Kovalev. It was close enough.

[BM dnobagaV]

Why you're in your feelings
Alt alert?

You know you're gonna have to deal with ward won a close top level fight


Yamanaka, Thurman, Bradley, Estrada, several other fighters are more accomplished n more proven than GGG, just as if not more talented/skilled ....great list other than his inclusion...IMO danny Garcia even with a loss to Thurman, with his resume should be higher ...dude beat the odds a lot and lost to the better man....it's guys in their 20s more proven n taken more risks than GGG.... Pretty sad but he a monster most feared doe....dey ducking lol

Learn to speak English and formulate a coherent sentence before you reply back to me, ****ing negro troll. Keep veiling your true believe.......

[soul_survivor]

Pacquiao

2 relatively dominant wins over top 10 fighters in his division in the past year.

One was the #2 ranked fighter in his dvision (Bradley).

That win over Bradley can be considered the single best win of any top fighter as far as quality of opponent + margin of victory over the past year.

Bradley is arguably on the same level as some of guys in this thread being named p4p #1...and Pacquiao beat him with relative ease.

Yeah but Pacquiao retired after he bradley fight and thus should not have been on p4p lists anymore. He did come back and beat a legit top 10 welter but he didnt look particularly good won easily but im talking about the actual performance). Def deserves a place in the top 10 but hardly no. 1.

Come on, do you want me to go over this yet again?

I understand your problem is that Ward deserves to be in any list regardless of opponents but after Dawson (even that fight is a joke but lets give it to Ward) the so called p4p entrant didnt fight a world class opponent for 4 YEARS.

And I'm being very loose with my definition here and giving Barrera a shout as a world class opponent (on account of a couple good wins).

Add to that the fact tha the was inactive for over a year (thats an automatic exclusion in my criteria) and then he came back to fight 2 journeymen, at best. Paul Smith had to fight at 170+ lol

None of that is comparable to GGG fighting former 3x champion Geale, top contender Macklin (who in the eyes of most beat the longest reigning middle weight champ at the time) and top level contender Murray. Add in the Lem unification and thats that. He has beaten the best available opponents in his division and done so looking levels above them for the most part.

Thats all a fighter can do. Its why Wlad is considered a great heavyweight or Finito Lopez a great minimumweight.

Ward fighting journeymen outside of their best weight is pathetic in comparison and so for me doesn ot put him back into the p4p list before the arrival of th Kovalev fight. It really is as simple as that.

My list and criteria are there t oread and consistent. E.g. Bradley would be on my list and should be on any list but he has last his last fight and then been inactive. Cant keep on the list while other fighters have been active and won.

Unless you believe Rodriguez and Smith are better opponents than Macklin, Murray, Geale, Lem and Jacobs?

Just gonna leave this here as another defeat for the ward gang.

[therealpugilist]

Learn to speak English and formulate a coherent sentence before you reply back to me, ****ing negro troll. Keep veiling your true believe.......

this isnt grammar 101 or english 101

what is a negro lol


you must have the inferiority complex

a black guy ****** you wife? stole you girl? kicked your ass?


my true believe is you actually have to BEAT ELITE FIGHTERS to be p4p...stay butt hurt

ALT ALERT

[therealpugilist]

Learn to speak English and formulate a coherent sentence before you reply back to me, ****ing negro troll. Keep veiling your true believe.......

CAN YOU DENY ANYTHING I SAID?

NOPE....get GGG's nuts out your mouth..dude doesnt deserve p4p entry look at who he's fought and failed to impress vs his best opponents

****ing negro troll...might as well come out and say what you really feel...racist beotches are Hercules online, but in person....its a whole different scenario " i have black friends lol, we cool bro..we cool bro"'


get that azz whooped...all humble faced in public bwahahahahahahahahahahaha