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Originally posted by Aztekkas View PostYou stray too much from the subject. You initially stated that i couldn't post facts and when I did you just went off the deep end. Goodluck with passing off opinions as facts in the future, sadly your attempts are futile with me.
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while i thought that was one of the worst robberies i've seen in a minute, i don't think you have to have gonzalez at #` p4p because of the punishment he's been taking in victory lately. i know it's a small guy's division and the lack of power lends itself to two way action and an opponent being "in the fight" but it's my belief that gonzalez looked aged when he got his orbital broken, against cuadras, and again against this thai guy. he's a 29 year old little guy. if you look at the history of those tiny little divisions you'll find that the best fighters have peaked in their early and mid 20's, and are often all done in their 30's.
the matchmaking, two way action, long fights with many rounds, and the nature of a small body peaking early in life all lend itself to a short career in the small weights. gonzalez is a sure fire hall of famer, with or without the L on his record from the robbery, or even from a legit loss. the guy has accomplished a ton and he's been in some real wars. he's without a doubt past his peak.
i expect a rematch, in which he'll fight more cautiously and win, and then a rematch with cuadras in a main event on HBO for a good payday. then hopefully he retires.
if you notice, cuadras looked off as well. those two fought a freakish war. if you land that kind of volume on an opponent in a higher weight class he goes down. the little guys just keep taking the beating.
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Originally posted by mlac View PostProvide facts why not.
you can't
nice try tho.
WAR ROMAN
Román never was the #1, that was a trick to promoting him in U.S.A.
-He never unified in 4 divisions.
-He is not the more talented fighter. Not top-5.
-Only fought with 3 good rivals in 50 fights, one drained, another that destroyed him(Cuadras) and another than dropped him and won the fight.
-His real weight was 112 pounds, he bullied midgets in 105-108 pounds, actually he can't make the 112 pounds.
-Dude has a very bad defense.
Good fighter, never a great one. And nope, he is not in the top-25 of this generation
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This thread is the worst and most ****** of recent years.
González was exposed so bad.
Originally posted by Aztekkas View PostAgain, you asked for facts and I gave them. You on the other hand respond with opinions, for the most part.
Regardless of how you saw the fight Roman has an official L on his record. So your whole "my opinion hold a more weight" is out the window because I stated a fact haha.
Again, Roman was coming in at featherweight and close to super featherweight back at 112 and that's why he decided to move up. His body was having issues dropping down to Flyweight. This is all documented. So his height might be shorter than many of the current 115 pounders but that doesn't mean he isn't in his natural weightclass.
Of fact, the Thai guy has the same height that Roman.
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Originally posted by mlac View PostLet's be honest now, Cuadras looked like a shell of himself last weekend.
Roman took his soul.
I don't know how you can talk about dodging 'tough fights' when Roman has been in B2B FOTY slobberknockers with extremely tough, bigger men.
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Cuadras needs move up in weight, he has problems to make the 115 pounds, that's why the fight vs Carmona was in 116 pounds. But Gonzalez took his soul hahahaha, Cuadras was taking air like crazy in round 6.
Bigger men? Cuadras was in 129 pounds and Gonzalez in 126 pounds.
Facts.
Stop crying you are crazy, Gonzalez bullied midgets in 105 and 108 pounds why don't cry about that?
González real weight is 112-115 pounds, like chavez Jr he lost his weight advantage and this is his reality.
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Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet View PostThis guy is crazy.
Cuadras needs move up in weight, he has problems to make the 115 pounds, that's why the fight vs Carmona was in 116 pounds. But Gonzalez took his soul hahahaha, Cuadras was taking air like crazy in round 6.
Bigger men? Cuadras was in 129 pounds and Gonzalez in 126 pounds.
Facts.
Stop crying you are crazy, Gonzalez bullied midgets in 105 and 108 pounds why don't cry about that?
González real weight is 112-115 pounds, like chavez Jr he lost his weight advantage and this is his reality.
awesome now run along and let the big boys talk boxing.
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Originally posted by New England View Postwhile i thought that was one of the worst robberies i've seen in a minute, i don't think you have to have gonzalez at #` p4p because of the punishment he's been taking in victory lately. i know it's a small guy's division and the lack of power lends itself to two way action and an opponent being "in the fight" but it's my belief that gonzalez looked aged when he got his orbital broken, against cuadras, and again against this thai guy. he's a 29 year old little guy. if you look at the history of those tiny little divisions you'll find that the best fighters have peaked in their early and mid 20's, and are often all done in their 30's.
the matchmaking, two way action, long fights with many rounds, and the nature of a small body peaking early in life all lend itself to a short career in the small weights. gonzalez is a sure fire hall of famer, with or without the L on his record from the robbery, or even from a legit loss. the guy has accomplished a ton and he's been in some real wars. he's without a doubt past his peak.
i expect a rematch, in which he'll fight more cautiously and win, and then a rematch with cuadras in a main event on HBO for a good payday. then hopefully he retires.
if you notice, cuadras looked off as well. those two fought a freakish war. if you land that kind of volume on an opponent in a higher weight class he goes down. the little guys just keep taking the beating.
If he isnt, who is IYP no.1?
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Originally posted by mlac View Postgood post, cheers.
If he isnt, who is IYP no.1?
i think it's pretty up in the air at this point. lomachenko's the most able fighter in teh world right now IMO, but he doesn't quite have the resume yet to make him a must-pick.
ward kovalev winner would be an easy answer, as those were the two best prime fighters to fight in a long time; but who won? and are they really better than lomachenko right now?
if you held a gun to my head i'd say lomachenko and feel ok about it. well, minus the gun to my head.
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