Comments Thread For: Kovalev To Ward: Are You a Man or Girl? You Scared Motherf***er!

[daggum]

Yep, that's why every judge gave had Kov up 40-35 after 4 rounds. One more knockdown and it woulda been over. If he coulda clearly won 2 rounds out of eight he woulda had a win. He didn't. Ward won the last 8 rounds. Don't matter if you get whooped, hurt, and knock downed once in the first four rounds, you can still win. Boxing is scored by rounds. Ward won at least 7, most thought he won the last 8 rounds. That is why he won.

Don't worry man, I ain't making fun of you, lots of casual fans don't realize how scoring works in boxing. But its by rounds, that's it. That is why Ward won. Yea, you gotta keep scoring rounds, even if you think in the 2nd round it is over.

No problem, glad I could help ya out. Keep watching boxing, you will love it. Just remember how the scoring works, and you'll really enjoy it.

most thought kov won so how can you say most thought ward won the last 8? you see its ****** statements like this that just make no sense. rounds 6 and 10 were clear as day kov roudns so saying something so off as ward won the last 8 rounds just gives away your position as person who doesnt know how to score. kov won the fight roudn by roudn. and he won it easily. i have video evidence to back up my claims showing kov landing more and imo showing him landing the much cleaner punches. all you have is broad statements "ward won the last 8 rounds" no. no he did not. you dont score roudns to guys just because you like them. sorry! doesnt work that way. they go to the guy landing better punches.

[lex_fugitive]

no surprise but you are remembering things wrong...

https://zippy.gfycat.com/FatherlyCon...spadefish.webm

But after Stevenson (26-1, 21 KOs), 37, of Montreal, retained the title by one-sided decision against Sakio Bika on April 4, he and promoter Yvon Michel, whom Kovalev and Duva had accused of ducking the fight, professed their desire to make the match, be it to negotiate terms or let it go to a purse bid, where the promoter with the biggest offer would win the promotional rights.
Then Duva announced that she would not participate in the bidding process, which came as a surprise considering how much she dogged Stevenson for supposedly avoiding the fight.
Duva, the one who initially suggested that the WBC make Kovalev the mandatory at the organization's annual convention late last year, said that while she and Kovalev very much want to make the fight, Kovalev is under exclusive contract to HBO, which would not allow him to fight on another network.

That's from

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...urse-bid-order

Welcome to the sport! I'm telling you, once you know how things work (like contracts do not matter in purse bids- which is why Duva said she wanted it when she didn't think it would happen) and how scoring works.

You're welcome, buddy.

[daggum]

I'm saying that judges dont look at Compubox to score. they dont count punches landed with their fingers. they can't rewatch the fight in slow motion like we can. the criteria in the pros are: defense, effective aggression, clean punching and ring generalship. in the amateurs the only criteria is clean punching. the guy that makes those videos is judging pros like amateurs.

I had Ward turning the fight in his favor the second half. he controlled the pace and rarely got touched with Kovalevs right hand after round two. that's defense and ring generalship.

we can debate all day. I watched the fight with Spanish commentary to not be swayed and still have the same score as the judges. what was your card I wanna see what rounds exactly you gave to Kovalev.

rd 1-2: Kov
rd 3: Ward
rd 4: Kov
rd 5: Ward
rd 6: Kov
rd 7-9: Ward
rd 10: Kov
rd 11-12: Ward

ah ok sorry i was only coutning clean punches. i forgot the guy getting hit with the clean punches had better defense and was in control of the fight. thanks for setting me straight.

[steeve steel]

Ward: " But i m a princess!! He can t talk to me that way!"

[daggum]

But after Stevenson (26-1, 21 KOs), 37, of Montreal, retained the title by one-sided decision against Sakio Bika on April 4, he and promoter Yvon Michel, whom Kovalev and Duva had accused of ducking the fight, professed their desire to make the match, be it to negotiate terms or let it go to a purse bid, where the promoter with the biggest offer would win the promotional rights.
Then Duva announced that she would not participate in the bidding process, which came as a surprise considering how much she dogged Stevenson for supposedly avoiding the fight.
Duva, the one who initially suggested that the WBC make Kovalev the mandatory at the organization's annual convention late last year, said that while she and Kovalev very much want to make the fight, Kovalev is under exclusive contract to HBO, which would not allow him to fight on another network.

That's from

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...urse-bid-order

Welcome to the sport! I'm telling you, once you know how things work (like contracts do not matter in purse bids- which is why Duva said she wanted it when she didn't think it would happen) and how scoring works.

You're welcome, buddy.

what does this article have to do with ward-kov? nothing oh cool thanks for wasting your time. anyway thanks for ducking my points. i knew you had nothing of substance. of course no reasonable person could defend ward winning. welcome to the sport though. maybe one day you will realize that the guy landing more and landing the better punches should be the winner. i know ward-kov makes it seem like the opposite is true but its really not that way. that is what we call a robbery in boxing. happens a lot unfortunately.

[DeLorean]

oh yeah they were in control for sure. a guy from russi could fight in either new york or vegas. tht doesnt favor ward in any way no sir. the judges all being american and hes figthing an american doesnt favor the american in any way. they were in control like you said. if that were true the fight would have happened in russia with 3 russia judges and kov walks away with an easy UD. they bent over backwards to get the coward in teh ring and his own promoter had to give him 3 million dollars. and the 5 million has a lot to do with the fight since ward wants more than that for the rematch so its his fault its not happening. stop blaming duva when its wards fault that his own promoter overpaid his diva ass. thats what happens when you spoil lil kids and thats what ward is. a lil kid. gimme gimme gimme. i want the super six in my favor. i want refs that will let me hold, headbutt, and lowblow. i want judges that are blind. i want to fight only in my coutnry. DUVA WAS IN CONTROL FOLKS!

If there was more money to be made in Russia trust me that's where Ward would go. just like Spence traveling for Brook. with your logic if Stevenson demanded Kovalev fight him in Haiti with Haitian judges and Kovalev refuses then hes a coward right. let's keep going if Canelo wants to drag GGG to Mexico and he refuses GGG must be a b*tch then. Duva never once suggested the fight be in Russia. and if fighting in America was such a disadvantage why has Kovalev spent his whole career in the USA? why would Duva put her cash cow in that predicament with three evil American judges. I mean Andre Ward is the golden boy after all right. he's loved by everyone in the USA right. give me a break. the guy is an undefeated gold medalist and is barely known in his own country. there was no American conspiracy.

[lex_fugitive]

rounds 6 and 10 were clear as day kov roudns so saying something so off as ward won the last 8 rounds just gives away your position as person who doesnt know how to score.

Judges have to score to who wins the round, not who they like. I understand you like Kovalev so you say he won. He didn't. I have video evidence of it. You can even go to boxrec, and while it won't show you the fight, you can easily verify that Ward won the fight. Controlled the ring and the pace and landed the cleaner shots. That's how scoring works. It's alright, like I said a lot of new fans think a knockdown automatically wins the fight, but that's not how it works. Glad I could be of help.

[DeLorean]

ah ok sorry i was only coutning clean punches. i forgot the guy getting hit with the clean punches had better defense and was in control of the fight. thanks for setting me straight.

show me your card man. round by round.

[daggum]

If there was more money to be made in Russia trust me that's where Ward would go. just like Spence traveling for Brook. with your logic if Stevenson demanded Kovalev fight him in Haiti with Haitian judges and Kovalev refuses then hes a coward right. let's keep going if Canelo wants to drag GGG to Mexico and he refuses GGG must be a b*tch then. Duva never once suggested the fight be in Russia. and if fighting in America was such a disadvantage why has Kovalev spent his whole career in the USA? why would Duva put her cash cow in that predicament with three evil American judges. I mean Andre Ward is the golden boy after all right. he's loved by everyone in the USA right. give me a break. the guy is an undefeated gold medalist and is barely known in his own country. there was no American conspiracy.

thats not true. ward turned down career high pay days to fight bute and froch in the uk so no ward would not travel. if you havent noticed ward has to have everything setup in his favor to fight otherwise he simply doesnt fight. he refused to travel in the super six when other guys fought in 4 different coutnries. hes nothing like spence because of his style. guys like kov, ggg, and spence can win fights abroad because they have dominant knockout styles. ward is a pick and poker and has to win by decision. he knows this. he knows the judges and refs decide the fights and he puts himself in position to win even before the fight is won. obviously they got it wrong in this fight but bailed him out, in any other country its a clear kov win.

[lex_fugitive]

[QUOTE=daggum;17512627]what does this article have to do with ward-kov? QUOTE]

I said Kov ran like a little girl from the Superman. You said I remembered wrong. I prove you are the one who is wrong and you change the subject and act like you don't know what's going on. Dang, you've had way too much to drink, my friend. Better to not post when you are like this, makes you look like a complete amateur that has never watched boxing before.