Ali vs. Tyson: Who is more overrated among them?

[Sun_Tzu]

Lol, I always ruffle feathers when it comes to Ali. I know his history very well, I watched him live through out the seventies when he had lost a step but I've seen I would guess all his fights that were filmed. Someone said dude was top 3 P4P, that's some love right there, I applaud your loyalty but you are dead wrong. I

[Sun_Tzu]

Ali overrated?? cuse he had close decision? lol SRR and SRL had them ,guy fough veterans when he was young then the best of his generation and then went to war with young lions in Spinks and Liston ,are we realy at boxing forum sayin Ali is overrated??

Tyson in his prime wasnt overrated ,then he used this hype to goeven when he was done ,but thats another story.

Yes, he is overrated. You don't think so good for you.

[joseph5620]

Yes, he is overrated. You don't think so good for you.

Name a heavyweight with better career wins than Ali.

[Canelo and GGG]

Yes, he is overrated. You don't think so good for you.

i dont see how ,ofc he had other things then boxing going ,everybody who is crossover had,thats why he is icon ,in boxing terms his one of the best who laced them(to hard to say who was the best)

[HAMMER77777]

Neither. But MA was better.

[Sun_Tzu]

i dont see how ,ofc he had other things then boxing going ,everybody who is crossover had,thats why he is icon ,in boxing terms his one of the best who laced them(to hard to say who was the best)

I said he was a great fighter but he isnt a runaway pick for the greatest of all time at heavyweight and sure isnt as far as P4P. Ali was a great self promoter, he said he was the greatest of all time so often it just stuck and for the general public that dont know anything about boxing he is. This is where people go sideways on me about Ali, I concede that he waa great fighter, I just dont have him up on the same pedestal as a large majority of the world.
Its funny to me when people say no one could beat him when he lost as early as 1971 to Frazier then had two more life and death (almost literally) fights with him. Jimmy Young arguably beat him, Ken Norton beat him up all three fights and then lost to Leon Spinks with 8 pro fights total. I mean the list goes on and on. He wasnt this unbeatable juggernaut that he is made out to be by alot of people today. This is what I mean by overrated, it goes with the territory, almost all of the greats are overrated to a degree and he was absolutely one of the greats.

Im not leaving out the Ali from the sixties either but he really made his name in the seventies and he lost alot of the fights he got decisions for during that time imo.

[Chrismart]

Tyson.

He was still an excellent fighter though.

[iamboxing]

Digusting thread

[daggum]

floyd beat more champs than both of them and would school both of them head to head. after waiting for years for ali to show signs of parkinsons he would step into the ring with him and school him to a debatable win. after tyson gets ko'd multiple times he would step in the ring with him and barely win a decision. proof!

[Canelo and GGG]

I said he was a great fighter but he isnt a runaway pick for the greatest of all time at heavyweight and sure isnt as far as P4P. Ali was a great self promoter, he said he was the greatest of all time so often it just stuck and for the general public that dont know anything about boxing he is. This is where people go sideways on me about Ali, I concede that he waa great fighter, I just dont have him up on the same pedestal as a large majority of the world.
Its funny to me when people say no one could beat him when he lost as early as 1971 to Frazier then had two more life and death (almost literally) fights with him. Jimmy Young arguably beat him, Ken Norton beat him up all three fights and then lost to Leon Spinks with 8 pro fights total. I mean the list goes on and on. He wasnt this unbeatable juggernaut that he is made out to be by alot of people today. This is what I mean by overrated, it goes with the territory, almost all of the greats are overrated to a degree and he was absolutely one of the greats.

Im not leaving out the Ali from the sixties either but he really made his name in the seventies and he lost alot of the fights he got decisions for during that time imo.

Fair enough ,i can see only Holmes ,Lewis and prime Bowe being better in HW then Ali but thats maybe (I dont buy Rocky or Luis as best HWs )