I think we can all agree, TBE deserves credit for offering to fight McGregor

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  • daggum
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    #11
    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
    Credit for going after an easy payday? Connor was finished by a gatekeeper recently, and has some more embarrassing losses in the past. He's 90% marketing. Don't be gullible.

    TBE gets credit for the business move, not for any sort of sports accomplishment here, because this isn't sporting.
    lol really? floyd fans are used to focusing on losses and not wins. he beat 2 top contenders at featherweight and then destroyed the champ(who is an all time great). then he moved up to lightweight(equivalent of 2 boxing divisions) and destroyed the champ and ufc has half the divisions as boxing so that means the talent is far more concentrated. 4 top guys in 2 years=marketing... yes he lost to a solid fighter way above his weight(equivlent of 4 boxing divisions) and he lost in the past. that has nothing to do with the wins he produced.

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    • Willy Wanker
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      #12
      Unless this boxing match is contested with 4 oz. MMA gloves, Conor stands no chance. Floyd needs to age another two years for Conor to beat him. Floyd knows this is easy money and he'll try to fight Conor at 147 instead of 154.

      This is the classic definition of a big money circus fight. The event and build up will be fun as hell, but the match itself will be like any other Floyd fight. He'll put on a boxing clinic and he might even stop Conor considering how bad his cardio is.

      There was that famous video clip of Conor getting schooled by his sparring partner, but somehow he's a risk to Mayweather?


      Last edited by Willy Wanker; 03-11-2017, 02:40 PM.

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      • R-C
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        #13
        What's a TBE?

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        • Redd Foxx
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          #14
          Originally posted by LockardTheGOAT
          That "gatekeeper" was the definition of a bad stylistic match-up. Let's remember that styles make fights and not get disingenuous about it. Conor KO'ed one of the best P4P fighters in MMA history in 13 seconds one fight before that.
          ^That shows ignorance to the facts. Strikers like Thompson have run through diaz. Josh Thompson>Connor McGreggor by your logic.

          Also, before inflating the value of the Aldo win, consider that JDS leveled Velasquez rather quickly in their first fight. But, we all know what happened in the two rematches. 13 seconds is not sufficient to lean a fighter's entire resume on.

          Originally posted by daggum
          lol really? floyd fans are used to focusing on losses and not wins.
          I'm not a Floyd fan. i'm just being honest about the situation. People see Connor and the way he's marketed and think, "I'm supposed to like this guy. He must be a phenomenal fighter because I'm being told that he is."
          The difference between the two is that Mayweather actually earned the role. McGregor is a product of the star-maker machine. There are plenty of other MMA fighters who are true examples of phenomenal athletes, but those fans are more about hype than crediting actual talent.
          Last edited by Redd Foxx; 03-11-2017, 02:58 PM.

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          • KillaCamNZ
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            #15
            So you think Pacquiao II, would be an easier fight than a guy who's never boxed pro, and never above age groups? I understand this is a troll thread - but why don't you cut to the chase and come out and say you had a fridge dropped on your head as a child?

            I hope my **** this morning comes out as dense as you.

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            • alexguiness
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              #16
              McGregor is not even a C level fighter in pro boxing terms.

              Not hating on the guy, it's just the simple truth.

              He'd struggle in the Golden Gloves, let alone the pro ranks.

              Anyone who believes otherwise is just naive to the point of pure ******ity.

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              • LockardTheGOAT
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                #17
                Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                ^That shows ignorance to the facts. Strikers like Thompson have run through diaz. Josh Thompson>Connor McGreggor by your logic.

                Also, before inflating the value of the Aldo win, consider that JDS leveled Velasquez rather quickly in their first fight. But, we all know what happened in the two rematches. 13 seconds is not sufficient to lean a fighter's entire resume on.
                No puncher has ever "run through" Diaz - Thompson is the only one to ever KO him and that was through a head kick. And no, the fact that Thompson laid him out and Conor didn't isn't proof that he's an overall better fighter than McGregor. There are obviously a lot more variables to the sport and each fighter's comparative abilites than that, stop playing dumb.

                Also, your second paragraph completely nullifies your point - You aren't wrong about rematches turning out differently than the first fight, but in raising that point, you invalid any purpose of harping on Conor's loss to Diaz in the first place.

                Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                I'm not a Floyd fan. i'm just being honest about the situation. People see Connor and the way he's marketed and think, "I'm supposed to like this guy. He must be a phenomenal fighter because I'm being told that he is."
                The difference between the two is that Mayweather actually earned the role. McGregor is a product of the star-maker machine. There are plenty of other MMA fighters who are true examples of phenomenal athletes, but those fans are more about hype than crediting actual talent.
                That's a common statement people love to throw out when criticizing McGregor, but you all know it's not true. You don't become as popular of a mega-star like Conor is just because someone tells you to - It's not that easy and simple, and if it was, the UFC would put that kind of marketing behind everyone.

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                • Scary
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                  #18
                  Anything can happen, but on paper Floyd is lightyears ahead in every department of everything. I for one, would definitely want to see this fight, just for the gathering it would create. Boxing would be talked about again on the streetcorners. It'd be a brutal affair for boxing, should McGregor happen rob the bank and get the KO. Biggest upset ever.

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                  • Tony Trick-Pony
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                    #19
                    If he fought him in MMA, then yes. It would be gutsy as hell. However, McGregor's never boxed. Never went twelve. This is a circus match-up.

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                    • Redd Foxx
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by LockardTheGOAT
                      No puncher has ever "run through" Diaz - Thompson is the only one to ever KO him and that was through a head kick. And no, the fact that Thompson laid him out and Conor didn't isn't proof that he's an overall better fighter than McGregor. There are obviously a lot more variables to the sport and each fighter's comparative abilites than that, stop playing dumb.

                      Also, your second paragraph completely nullifies your point - You aren't wrong about rematches turning out differently than the first fight, but in raising that point, you invalid any purpose of harping on Conor's loss to Diaz in the first place.



                      That's a common statement people love to throw out when criticizing McGregor, but you all know it's not true. You don't become as popular of a mega-star like Conor is just because someone tells you to - It's not that easy and simple, and if it was, the UFC would put that kind of marketing behind everyone.
                      I've watched Diaz since before he was ever signed with the UFC. You're desperately making arguments to support your emotions rather than being objective. No facts are going to sway you. That's the problem with fanboys

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