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  • Elroy The Great
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    #31
    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
    16 to 4.........
    hhhmmmm.....bellew never went down in any rd. which rd was that ?

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #32
      Originally posted by Elroy The Great
      hhhmmmm.....bellew never went down in any rd. which rd was that ?
      What does Bellew going down have anything to do with it? Haye outlanded Bellew 16 to 4 in round 5, the round before the injury. He was in control of the fight.

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      • Elroy The Great
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        #33
        Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
        What does Bellew going down have anything to do with it? Haye outlanded Bellew 16 to 4 in round 5, the round before the injury. He was in control of the fight.
        well, haye was motivated on destroying bellews career. 16-4 and no real damage, through 5 rds. ends up getting broken himself. this is the way brook fans look at his fight with 3g.

        ''up until the injury......''

        its all about how fights end

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          #34
          Originally posted by Elroy The Great
          well, haye was motivated on destroying bellews career. 16-4 and no real damage, through 5 rds. ends up getting broken himself. this is the way brook fans look at his fight with 3g.

          ''up until the injury......''

          its all about how fights end
          It's about why it ends. Bellew never looked like he was going to win that fight until Haye got injured. The Injury wasn't caused by Bellew either. Haye was just bouncing and his achilles snapped.

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          • Elroy The Great
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            #35
            Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
            It's about why it ends. Bellew never looked like he was going to win that fight until Haye got injured. The Injury wasn't caused by Bellew either. Haye was just bouncing and his achilles snapped.
            this isnt minority (not racist) report (the movie) where we can look into the future and see how things pan out.

            if it were due to a punch to the eye that closed it, people would say bellew landed a lucky shot in the right place.

            neither guy has a real hw future. more so haye.

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            • Elroy The Great
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              #36
              ''i hurt my (insert injury) !!!!''

              whats supposed to happen now

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              • Damn Wicked
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                #37
                Originally posted by billeau2
                One could say of this fight "we learned a lot" but not much about a contest between Haye and Bellow:

                a) Somewhere is a guy who won a fortune because he bet that "Haye and Bellew would embrace" after the fight So we know they can overcome their grudge.

                b) We all knew that Bellew would have to lose the early rounds, to survive, possibly tire Haye out, to have a chance...Well Bellew did lose the early rounds while Haye could fight.

                c) We learned, to be fair...Bellew took a few shots to the chops, though Haye was compomised.

                So, we didn't learn much of anything really, except that Haye really does get horrendous injuries every fight...I believe him! and Bellew probably should not try for the KO, probably should use the same strategy and lose the early few rounds and try to come on strong....There is a considerable liklihood that Haye will have another injury!
                Bellew clearly won the first round. Haye was throwing and missing huge haymakers while Bellew was countering him really well. Seems like everyone has gotten amnesia.

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                  #38
                  Really sad to hear Bellew talk like this. He came across as humble and admitted Haye was injured, only to ruin it all with these deluded remarks. No one in his right mind thinks that was a legitimate win, but most we're willing to let it slide and applaud his victory nonetheless, but to hear him gloat over beating what was, essentially, a one armed fighter is downright pathetic. I blame Sky Sports who didn't mention even once Haye's injury in the post-fight analysis and the Liverpool Echo that celebrated the win. The decent thing would have been to downplay the win, praise Bellew for withstanding Haye's initial onslaught and leave it at that, and return back to cruiserweight and defend his title. What we have now is a glorified cruiserweight who, fuelled by the press and his rabid scouse fans, thinks he can compete against the likes of Fury and Wilder.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by iamboxing
                    Really sad to hear Bellew talk like this. He came across as humble and admitted Haye was injured, only to ruin it all with these deluded remarks. No one in his right mind thinks that was a legitimate win, but most we're willing to let it slide and applaud his victory nonetheless, but to hear him gloat over beating what was, essentially, a one armed fighter is downright pathetic. I blame Sky Sports who didn't mention even once Haye's injury in the post-fight analysis and the Liverpool Echo that celebrated the win. The decent thing would have been to downplay the win, praise Bellew for withstanding Haye's initial onslaught and leave it at that, and return back to cruiserweight and defend his title. What we have now is a glorified cruiserweight who, fuelled by the press and his rabid scouse fans, thinks he can compete against the likes of Fury and Wilder.
                    This.

                    Originally posted by Elroy The Great
                    this isnt minority (not racist) report (the movie) where we can look into the future and see how things pan out.

                    if it were due to a punch to the eye that closed it, people would say bellew landed a lucky shot in the right place.

                    neither guy has a real hw future. more so haye.
                    Not this.

                    The fight was ended by an injury. Although Haye looked like a bag of **** before the injury, he was still in control of the fight and winning on all cards easily.

                    It's not the same as the Lewis v Vitali fight whereby Lewis caused the injury by throwing a punch.

                    There were no tactics, no 'played it to perfection', no superior boxing by the camp of Tony Bellew. He just got lucky, very lucky.

                    The fight could have been ended by Haye not coming out for Round 7. How would you have viewed it then? It certainly would have been clearer to casual fans that the injury ended the fight, so in a way although he showed heart by fighting on, he's deluded Bellew's fans into thinking it was a valid TKO.

                    The rest of us saw Bellew struggle with a one-armed, one-legged shell of a HW for 5 rounds before he managed to fall through the ropes.
                    Last edited by cameltoe; 03-10-2017, 04:27 PM.

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #40
                      Rematch then.

                      Haye has conceeded to the bigger split, he's conceeded to the venue being in Liverpool.

                      Would be mad not to take that.

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