British Boxing Board statement on Tyson & Hughie Fury

[kafkod]

I remember when Chavez Jr. was suspended for diuretics (or maybe this was the time for weed?), he was given like a 9-month suspension.

But they retroactively applied the suspension date from the time of the failed test, so by the time they gave their ruling, he only had like three more months before he could fight again.

This happens all the time in USA with suspensions.

Not sure how it would apply with the BBBoC

Now that rings a bell!

Not sure, but I think it might have been the weed they applied the retroactive rule for. Maybe because it was a recreational drug, not a PED?

Don't quote me on that doe, lol.

[deathofaclown]

Great band who kicked off the whole "Madchester" scene in the 1980's.

They were definitely on PED's doe, every one of them, every time they hit the stage or the recording studio.

Good avatar, can't beat a bit of Father Ted

[BoxingFan85]

Great band who kicked off the whole "Madchester" scene in the 1980's.

They were definitely on PED's doe, every one of them, every time they hit the stage or the recording studio.

Well worth a listen, the front man is an absolute toilet head but the main man on guitar is lethal he ain't no Slash but very melodic, John Squires I believe. Ian Brown the vocalist I suspect he has something wrong with him mentally, we shouldn't be too critical as it's likely genetics, same with the Fluff Furry's, when your mother is also your aunt you've really come from a life of adversity.

The first two albums are real stand outs if memory serves.

The self titled debut album is good think it come out in 89 or 90. Way before my time really but seen as a classic album in the UK. Wouldn't bother much with the rest of their stuff apart from this song which isn't on the debut album (unless it's a reissue)....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSD11dnphg0 - quite a familiar tune to some people, as other artists have sampled it.

Cheers fellas.. will definitely listen to them now that they come recommended

[Sparked_26]

Stone Roses are great.

[BoxingFan85]

I don't know, I thought I remember hearing something about the levels being extremely, unusually low. Do these tests have threshold/cutoffs levels like some drug tests do for recreational drugs?

I know when jobs and **** drug test you for street drugs, each drug has a nanogram/ML cutoff threshold - this is so excuses like "second hand inhalation," or "I ate poppy seeds" can't be used. Although I imagine if you ate a **** ton of poppy seeds u could still prolly test positive even above the cutoff threshold.

They are still not guilty of ANYTHING yet, though.

To say otherwise is wrong. Until they have completed the due process, and made a decision, they are innocent.

Oh the testosterone levels were high in their test and obviously they would have a level to measure it but I am not sure what is he cut-off range.. Either way they said it was contaminated drink and last month said it was contaminated meat..
I have no problems if he is cleared by the tribunal.. he deserves credit for winning, but if he was accused of drug charges and he is proven to have it consumed then he'll have to pay the price for it..
I get your stance, innocent until proven guilty.. but considering the **** he talked about Media and British fans and Wlad himself.. he shot his own foot by testing positive and deserves the criticism..

[Jewish-Reptile]

Stone Roses are great.

Guns and Roses and L.A. Guns is more my thing but SR are a special band undoubtedly, I love some of the guitar work.

[Butt stuff]

Oh the testosterone levels were high in their test and obviously they would have a level to measure it but I am not sure what is he cut-off range.. Either way they said it was contaminated drink and last month said it was contaminated meat..
I have no problems if he is cleared by the tribunal.. he deserves credit for winning, but if he was accused of drug charges and he is proven to have it consumed then he'll have to pay the price for it..
I get your stance, innocent until proven guilty.. but considering the **** he talked about Media and British fans and Wlad himself.. he shot his own foot by testing positive and deserves the criticism..

I read an article recently about how Olympic drug testing has a testosterone threshold to that of a man with possible but improbably high levels. So it's possible to dope within the allowed amounts which would still obviously could have an extensive effect on training/fighting. Will try to find it.

[BoxingFan85]

I read an article recently about how Olympic drug testing has a testosterone threshold to that of a man with possible but improbably high levels. So it's possible to dope within the allowed amounts which would still obviously could have an extensive effect on training/fighting. Will try to find it.

Good one.. Yeah olympics has ruled against few female athletes because their testosterone levels were high & they had to return their medals.. iirc a jamaican female sprinter was accused few yrs back..

Oh, how much of testosterone do you need to have to be like Bronco in your avi?

[kafkod]

Sounds like the BBBoC know no more than anyone on this forum and even if they did and were bound by a high profile gagging order subject from the courts brought about by the Fury employemwnt of the QC brought in to defend them they would be unable to say any more as they'd be in breach of confidentiality.

This Smith statement proves nothing, no guilt nor innocence. A waste of a thread shining no new information on anything just desperate reaching to prove the innonce of two guys you neither know or truly know anything about.

Here's what we do know, Peter Fluff Furry has signed time for dishonest deeds, hence making him a dishonest person. It's in his genetics.

Kafkod, are you a gypsy ?

Did I say this statement proves Tyson and Hughie are innocent, you ****** prick?

It does prove that you were wrong, as usual, when you said "the dates" were telling you that Hughie was obviously serving a suspension right now.

If you would stick to facts, and try to see things as they really are, not how you want them to be - because I know how badly you want the Fury's to be guilty - then you would be a much better poster.

[kafkod]

I read an article recently about how Olympic drug testing has a testosterone threshold to that of a man with possible but improbably high levels. So it's possible to dope within the allowed amounts which would still obviously could have an extensive effect on training/fighting. Will try to find it.

VADA, and I think UKAD too, use a more sophisticated testing protocol that doesn't depend on whether T levels are below a certain "possible" threshold. They measure the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone (don't ask me what that is, lol) and this tells them whether or not the T in an athlete's body has been naturally produced in that athlete's body, rather than introduced by some nefarious means.

But nandrolone isn't T, it's a substance that mimics the effects of T on the body. And it can be produced naturally, within the body, in small amounts, as a reaction to contaminants sometimes found in legal supplements and beef. That seems to be what the Fury's are using to defend themselves against UKAD's charges.