Golden Boy against Golovkin/Saunders

[hhs661]

Who cares. Let K2 promote their fighter the way they want, and line up his opponents however they choose to. If they fight on June 10th and it makes for a September fight with Canelo a little harder to make, then that's on them, not Golden Boy.

Golden is promoting Canelo, their fighter. What K2 does is K2's business. GBP should have no issue with that. Just like K2 should have no issue with them using May/September as constant dates to make Canelo fights.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

GGG vs Saunders isn't gonna happen anyway. The WBO is catering Alvarez and they want that belt in his hands.

[bigdunny1]

That math isn't quite correct.

As for the excuse that fighters use more time to hype and promote fights...yeah, that's not quite accurate.

There's a lot of boxers who would fight more often if the networks and promoters could find the money and room on their calendars to do it...and the time spent on the sidelines for those that don't isn't because they're too busy hyping and promoting their fights.

As for blaming the era....Golovkin fought 4 times in '13, 3 times in '14 and 3 times in '15.

If he wants 3 fights this year, he deserves credit for it...especially if the opponents he wants to fight are Jacobs, Saunders and Canelo.

Furthermore, Golovkin should go ahead and make the fight (if he beats Jacobs), and make GBP trot out this lame excuse for not making the fight.

Just because Canelo is on a two-fight-per-year diet doesn't mean other fighters need to do the same.

You didn't answer my question when is the last time any fighters I named fought more then twice a year? Manny, floyd, Canelo, cotto, GGG...what name doesn't fit? PPV stars and top fighters who make real money don't fight 3-4 times a year anymore. They fight less, spend more time between fights to promote and maximize on money when they do fight. GGG in those years you mentioned doesn't qualify as top fighter. Young fighters, prospects, guys not getting paid sure they fight more often because they have to. Its a different era. Now again tell me the last time a fighter took an interim fight that close to a big fight? It doesn't happen today. And it's foolish to say networks didnt want floyd or manny to fight more times a year. They want these stars to fight that's who they actually make money on. Fighters and promoters want more time in between fights to maximize pay. Floyd by design only fought may/sept.

[Sincingship]

GGG should fight Saunders to unify the division. Canelo dont want the fight. He will never hold a belt again as he can't make 154 much longer and is too small for 168. he should stay fighting mismatches and making alot of money until GGG retires or shows weakness

Coming soon Alvarez vs Eubank Jr for the IBO Super Middleweight Championship of the world

[Mitchell Kane]

Manny, floyd, Canelo, cotto, GGG...what name doesn't fit? PPV stars and top fighters who make real money don't fight 3-4 times a year anymore.

A lot of those fighters you just mentioned aren't in their primes.

Most of them (Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto) are either retired or have flirted with retirement.

Many prime fighters want to fight.

Crawford fought 3 times last year.

Lomachenko wanted to fight 3 times last year.

Kovalev and Ward both fought 3 times last year.

Furthering the point, Ward fought in August before fighting Kovalev in November....almost the same turnaround that Golovkin would have from if he fought Saunders in June and Canelo in September this year.

[Sadiqkingofko]

Then they shouldn't fight in June lol, they shout negotiate a fight with Oscar for September, if it falls through schedule a BJS fight for October

[bigdunny1]

A lot of those fighters you just mentioned aren't in their primes.

Most of them (Mayweather, Pacquiao, Cotto) are either retired or have flirted with retirement.

Many prime fighters want to fight.

Crawford fought 3 times last year.

Lomachenko wanted to fight 3 times last year.

Kovalev and Ward both fought 3 times last year.

Furthering the point, Ward fought in August before fighting Kovalev in November....almost the same turnaround that Golovkin would have from if he fought Saunders in June and Canelo in September this year.

has nothing to do with them no longer in their prime those guys I named stopped fighting 3 or more times a year a long time ago as soon as they started making big money and became PPV stars. Money was the factor and them taking more time between fights to promote meant more money in the pockets and started in their primes and continued as they remained the biggest draws in the boxing.

Kovalev/Ward is not the same because i don't even consider that a real fight last Aug. GGG wants to fight a world champ and top 10 ranked fighter when he has a sept date and risking the biggest fight of his career. Ward demanded another tune up before he fought Kovalev and fought a bum a guy who might not even have been ranked in the top 50 at 168 the time they faced and had zero chance in a upset. This was a rod salka type fight. THERE was also no set in stone HBO date. Just a promise they would fight later in the year at some point. Had an injury occurred no problem delaying the fight a month because Ward/Kovalev wasn't on Mexican Holiday and didn't have money tied to any specific date. Canelo has a specific Sept date and Canelo's fights are much bigger PPV events then Kovalev/Ward and he doesn't want to risk delaying it for anything. There really is nothing comparable to what GGG is trying to do in today's boxing.

[World Champion?]

GGG vs Saunders isn't gonna happen anyway. The WBO is catering Alvarez and they want that belt in his hands.

True, the WBO is catering Alvarez but the reasons that the fight will take place is: a) Saunders has to make a defence of his title and his mandatories have been given step aside money already and b) It's been said that the Kazakh government are putting up a large amount of money to stage the fight to promote their expo, the WBO cares about money more than Canelo.

Golden Boy are just looking for a way to weasel out of the Golovkin fight again, they can't make any legitimately good fights without having the WBO belt. They know that if Golovkin gets that 4th belt he'll have much more leverage in negotiations, whereas without it, Golden Boy can make the excuse that they don't need the fight.

[bigdunny1]

ggg can fight bjs in june and ducknelo in sept you clown. three months of promotion is enough and don't give me this nonsense about injuries ggg has no history of suffering cuts/injuries. this is just another excuse from the phaggots at golden boy to avoid the fight.if saunders is such a loser why has your team put their guy in position to fight for his "meaningless paper belt" and wanted him on their undercard?

I could care less if Canelo or GGG fight Saunders as a replacement/substitute fight because they aren't fighting each other. GGG has a much bigger fight on the table and needs to wait 1 month after his fight for Canelo/Chavez to be over then can iron out a deal to fight in Sept. Taking a interim fight that puts that in jeopardy when you are the B side is just plain ******. If the fight breaks down you can always go sign to fight Saunders in Sept. Saunders fight will still be there what's the need in signing now before Canelo/Chavez? And Canelo had NO history of injury yet broke a finger in his last fight.

If GGG wanted to fight Saunders so bad he had all last year he chose to fight Wade and Brook instead and screwed around with Jacobs over peanuts and lost his Dec date. Wade/Brook/Jacobs all fights that don't give GGG any belts yet now when he has a Canelo fight in front of him he needs a meaningless belt first? Funny how GGG cares about belts when he wants to duck someone he couldn't move up and fight Ward needed belts. But then goes and fights welterweights, guys on house arrest and begs for fights with Floyd the last 2 years.

[Mitchell Kane]

has nothing to do with them no longer in their prime those guys I named stopped fighting 3 or more times a year a long time ago

That's because their primes were a long time ago.

Look at Cotto's prime years from 2007-2009.

2007: Urkal, Judah, Mosley
2008: Gomez, Margarito (and he probably would've fought again had he not taken a beating against Margarito)
2009: Jennings, Clottey and Pacquaio

That's Cotto's entire prime...3 times a year twice, and on pace to do it in 2008 but didn't fight after July because of the beating he took from Margarito.

Money was the factor and them taking more time between fights to promote meant more money in the pockets and started in their primes and continued as they remained the biggest draws in the boxing.

What does this mean?

The best way for most fighters to "promote" themselves is by winning in the ring.

And that's what Pacquiao did in 2008 when he won the Marquez rematch, moved up in weight to fight David Diaz, and then moved up again to beat DLH.

That's how a fighter can promote themselves...by setting out a schedule with names like Jacobs, Sauners and Canelo.