Golden Boy against Golovkin/Saunders

[bigdunny1]

k2 should tell gbp to *** off! ggg fights bjs and takes his belt in his homecoming fight becoming one of the rare undisputed champions in history. everybody has to get through ggg if they want one of the straps.

would mean nothing because Canelo would still be lineal champ and is still the biggest draw in boxing. Only in the minds of GGG fangirls is grabbing one more meaningless belt giving him leverage over Canelo. Once again Floyd owned ever belt, every accolade possible. Was the unanimous number 1 P4P fighter in the world. And yet when he wanted to fight an old Oscar who wasn't even on P4P lists anymore Floyd had to give in to every demand Oscar made...because he was the PPV star. Floyd fought at Oscar's weight, on Oscars date, Oscars ring size, Oscars gloves, and with Oscar taking the lion share of the money. And this is Floyd we talking about with a resume of hall of famers and lineal champ and true champ in multiple weight classes. So if you thinking GGG with one more paper belt means anything you a fool. Sergio was the real champ and to fight Cotto Sergio had to give up lbs, let Cotto who was the challenger for his belt have first name billing and every other demand. Sergio had a win over Chavez and was the true lineal champ none of it helped him in negotiations with Cotto.

[bigdunny1]

That's because their primes were a long time ago.

Look at Cotto's prime years from 2007-2009.

2007: Urkal, Judah, Mosley
2008: Gomez, Margarito (and he probably would've fought again had he not taken a beating against Margarito)
2009: Jennings, Clottey and Pacquaio

That's Cotto's entire prime...3 times a year twice, and on pace to do it in 2008 but didn't fight after July because of the beating he took from Margarito.



What does this mean?

The best way for most fighters to "promote" themselves is by winning in the ring.

And that's what Pacquiao did in 2008 when he won the Marquez rematch, moved up in weight to fight David Diaz, and then moved up again to beat DLH.

That's how a fighter can promote themselves...by setting out a schedule with names like Jacobs, Sauners and Canelo.

Pacquiao became a star when he fought Oscar it's that simple from then on he fought less but made far more money. Same thing with Cotto fought Pacquiao. Same thing when Floyd fought Oscar. Has nothing to do with when YOU think they were in their primes. The bank account changing and them being a part of big money fights is when they fought less frequent. GGG fighting Jacobs, Saunders will not change a thing for GGG. Fighting Canelo will but somehow the idiots around him don't get that. He's getting old 35 wasting his career away turning down big fights and if this fight don't happen in 2017 because he just "needed" to fight Saunders in June first he has no one to blame but himself and the amateurs around him. Haymon, Top Rank and every other big time promoter would never advise him to sign another fight 1 month before Canelo/Chavez. They would all tell him wait and try and make a fight with the big fish if the fight falls apart you can always fight fall back and fight Saunders in Sept. That fight will always be there. Canelo won't.

[Mitchell Kane]

Had an injury occurred no problem delaying the fight a month because Ward/Kovalev wasn't on Mexican Holiday and didn't have money tied to any specific date. Canelo has a specific Sept date and Canelo's fights are much bigger PPV events then Kovalev/Ward and he doesn't want to risk delaying it for anything. There really is nothing comparable to what GGG is trying to do in today's boxing.

Yeah, that September date is so important that in 2016 Canelo's September fight (against Liam Smith) wasn't officially announced until when, late June?

And that September date is so so important that in 2015 he fought Miguel Cotto in November.

Excuses, excuses.

[Jsmooth9876]

Hahaha... Another guy fighting will put off a fight he'd be ready for in September anyway? Are you fking kidding me.. If I see Oscar Saturday night in Verona I'm laying into that MF'er

[iamboxing]

If the BJS fight is there and K2 doesn't take it, they're going on my (and everyone else's) ****list REAL fast. They should not let Golden Boy cost Golovkin a shot at unification.

BJS will drop the belt before facing GGG, he's another coward

Canelo and BJS are making a mockery of boxing

[satiev1]

Lol at the ******s acting like canelo already accepted the fight for september. Hilarious.

[bigdunny1]

Yeah, that September date is so important that in 2016 Canelo's September fight (against Liam Smith) wasn't officially announced until when, late June?

And that September date is so so important that in 2015 he fought Miguel Cotto in November.

Excuses, excuses.

that's when it was announced. Now you talking about starting negotiations around that time with GGG who has already proven to be difficult to work with. Everyone thought Jacobs fight would be no problem for Dec and look how long negotiations dragged for that fight. Cotto fight was in Nov because a guy by the name of Floyd was still fighting on Mexican holidays maybe you heard of him? Floyd is retired and Canelo now fights strictly on those dates.

You still haven't given me a good enough reason for why GGG needs to take this fight BEFORE Canelo when he already has the Canelo fight on the table for Sept.

[Mitchell Kane]

Now you talking about starting negotiations around that time

Starting negotiations around that time?

What?

[GMAN SUPREME]

that's when it was announced. Now you talking about starting negotiations around that time with GGG who has already proven to be difficult to work with. Everyone thought Jacobs fight would be no problem for Dec and look how long negotiations dragged for that fight. Cotto fight was in Nov because a guy by the name of Floyd was still fighting on Mexican holidays maybe you heard of him? Floyd is retired and Canelo now fights strictly on those dates.

You still haven't given me a good enough reason for why GGG needs to take this fight BEFORE Canelo when he already has the Canelo fight on the table for Sept.

LOL if that sept date is so important why didn't nelo vs cotto happen on that date instead of being pushed back to november? nobody cared about gayweather jr's "farewell fight" that **** was ridiculed and was a flop.if nelo vs cotto could be pushed back and happen in nov then so can ggg vs nelo. this whole the "fight has to happen on that sept date" is just another excuse form gbp. nelo wants to fight 3 times a year anyway, so what's the problem?

[icha]

LOL if that sept date is so important why didn't nelo vs cotto happen on that date instead of being pushed back to november? nobody cared about gayweather jr's "farewell fight" that **** was ridiculed and was a flop.if nelo vs cotto could be pushed back and happen in nov then so can ggg vs nelo. this whole the "fight has to happen on that sept date" is just another excuse form gbp. nelo wants to fight 3 times a year anyway, so what's the problem?

lol, so now is canelo the one who needs to adjust his schedule in order to square with gggs... it aint happening, if ggg wants this fight it will have to be in canelos terms and that includes date and venue... The biggest draw ever was black, and he fought on mexican hollidays for a reason... if the date wasnt important he could just fought on MLK hollidays...