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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #21
    Originally posted by _Maxi
    Everyone there said Golovkin dominated that sparring session, do not re write history. There are reports. But it was expected at that point. Canelo was a JMW and a 20 yo kid.
    Not 1 said he dominated you lying ****.

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    • APryor
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      #22
      I don't know why Canelo fans are so obsessed with how many PPV buys this fight will do. If Golovkin wins impressively, there will be massive pressure on Canelo to step up and fight him. It does not matter if it does 10K buys.

      Canelo can duck, but he can't hide. I'm sure he can continue to make big bucks fighting in front of Mexican Nationalists but overall he'll be considered a joke and his legacy will be destroyed.

      That's the way this sport works. Reputations actually do not revolve around PPV buys. Canelo will get absolutely shredded in the press and by the average boxing fan if Golden Boy doesn't make a solid and firm offer (as in not "sign now for a fight to take place in 2020"). Any Canelo fan hoping that a poor PPV number for this fight is going to protect Canelo's detoriating reputation is just kidding himself.

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        #23
        Originally posted by APryor
        I don't know why Canelo fans are so obsessed with how many PPV buys this fight will do. If Golovkin wins impressively, there will be massive pressure on Canelo to step up and fight him. It does not matter if it does 10K buys.

        Canelo can duck, but he can't hide. I'm sure he can continue to make big bucks fighting in front of Mexican Nationalists but overall he'll be considered a joke and his legacy will be destroyed.

        That's the way this sport works. Reputations actually do not revolve around PPV buys. Canelo will get absolutely shredded in the press and by the average boxing fan if Golden Boy doesn't make a solid and firm offer (as in not "sign now for a fight to take place in 2020"). Any Canelo fan hoping that a poor PPV number for this fight is going to protect Canelo's detoriating reputation is just kidding himself.
        A PPV flop puts pressure on Golovkin to accept whatever is offered. It'd be great if it did 10k. So yes it does matter.

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          #24
          I don't really give a fuc how many PFVs it sells. The two best middleweights in the world are fighting each other. Jacobs has KOed every one of his last 12 opponents. GGG has KOed every one of his last 24 opponents. If Jacobs and GGG are bums then every boxer in the world are all bums. I am more excited about this fight than any other fight. Do you think it will go the distance with no knockdowns like Thurman vs Garcia did? I don't think so.

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            #25
            Originally posted by APryor
            I don't know why Canelo fans are so obsessed with how many PPV buys this fight will do. If Golovkin wins impressively, there will be massive pressure on Canelo to step up and fight him. It does not matter if it does 10K buys.

            Canelo can duck, but he can't hide. I'm sure he can continue to make big bucks fighting in front of Mexican Nationalists but overall he'll be considered a joke and his legacy will be destroyed.

            That's the way this sport works. Reputations actually do not revolve around PPV buys. Canelo will get absolutely shredded in the press and by the average boxing fan if Golden Boy doesn't make a solid and firm offer (as in not "sign now for a fight to take place in 2020"). Any Canelo fan hoping that a poor PPV number for this fight is going to protect Canelo's detoriating reputation is just kidding himself.
            Only one ducking is GGG he has a offer on the table for 15mil and still hasn't signed. If his fight flops and loses money how does he justify pricing himself out by asking for more money? GGG and Jacobs combined making around 5m for a fight that almost certainly will lose money. While canelo/chavez sold out days after going on sale for a fight that's 2 months away. GGG fight has cheaper tickets and the fight is days away and not close to selling their tickets. It's apparent to anyone but GGG dyck riders that he isn't worth the money he's asking for and when this fight flops he will have no choice but to take whatever offer golden boy gives him.

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              #26
              If Golovkin wins, he continues to be The Man at 160. Canelo is merely a contender. If he wants to continue to talk tough and/or to keep his self respect, he will have to make a good offer even if this PPV bombs.

              Will Canelo make more money than G? Of course...

              I agree with you that Golovkin should want this fight very badly, but for a different reason. He will be a big favorite against Canelo. Canelo is the much bigger draw and Canelo is the one who is gonna get knocked out so GGG should sign on any decent offer.

              I don't consider an offer for a theoretical future fight to be held after Canelo fights some cans in the interim to be a serious offer. Golden Boy is stalling. They are terrified of putting their cash cow in with GGG. Canelo has already had some close calls and was also comprehensively dominated by a smaller man, but that was excuseable because it was Mayweather. If GGG brutalizes him it does massive damage to his brand. Unfortunately for Golden Boy, ducking him will likewise damage the brand. They have to hope and pray GGG loses and soon. If GGG KOs Jacobs, the pressure only mounts. That is true no matter how badly the PPV bombs.

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              • Sadiqkingofko
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                #27
                Originally posted by _Maxi
                Everyone there said Golovkin dominated that sparring session, do not re write history. There are reports. But it was expected at that point. Canelo was a JMW and a 20 yo kid.
                I saw Sergey Kovalev say that it was 50-50, Sergey is an Honorable guy, no reason to doubt his words

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                  A PPV flop puts pressure on Golovkin to accept whatever is offered. It'd be great if it did 10k. So yes it does matter.
                  You are completely obsessed with GGG accepting that BS flat fee offer instead of holding out for a 65/35 split in Goldenboy's favor. You should be careful what you wish for, If GGG accepts that offer he will very likely win by KO. Then what will you do? How is it somehow in your strange thought process, GGG's fault if champions hand over their world title to him rather than fight him for it?

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                  • bigdunny1
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                    #29
                    GGG has tons of paper belts that were given outside the ring and guess what none of that helped him in negotiations with cotto, or canelo. Floyd had every belt and boxing accolade possible was the unanimous number 1 p4p fighter in the world and Oscar was at the end of his career no longer on anyone's p4p lists and yet still Oscar was the cash cow biggest draw in the sport. So he had all the leverage and had his way in the negotiations and Floyd had little say in the matter could either take the deal on oscars terms and make at the time a career payday or continue being the best fighter that casual fans didn't know or care about.

                    GGG could win every belt he will still be the B side to Canelo and if he flops he has no leg to stand on to kill the fight over more money that he clearly doesn't deserve.

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                    • APryor
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                      #30
                      So you think Cotto didn't fight GGG because of money? Cotto might be crazy but he's not ******.

                      To an extent, I agree with everything else you wrote. Canelo will be the A side. If GBP makes a legit offer, GGG will be wise to accept it, even if he is making less than half of what Alvarez makes. An offer for a fight sometime in the future, with other fights scheduled in the interim, is not legit. What they offer after the Chavez freak fight is done with is what's important.

                      I predict they won't make a legit offer but will desperately attempt to spin through the media. GBP doesn't want their cash cow in with a guy who is going to KO him. They'll probably be babbling about a contract for a fight to theoretically take place in 2018 or something, while they line up some cherry picks for Canelo in the meanwhile.

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