Who's greater Miguel Cotto or Juan Manuel Marquez and why?

[Rome-By-Ko]

Marquez for a laundry list of reasons..

[*TonyMontana*]

Marquez
Why?
Cos he's Mexican

[ramses07]

He really didn't. When he was in line for Naz, he was the one that turned it down. Hel ost fair and square to John and he lost fair and square, twice to Pacquiao although the first fight was scored a darw because one of the judges did not score a knock down. It should have been Pac *****ing and moaning about that but instead it was JMM and his fanbase.

the Naz fight wasnt offered to him until after he lost in a crappy fight against norwood

probably not the best time to take it

so pac hitting JMM while he was down didnt warrant a point being taking away?

its boxing stuff like that happens

For the most part people believe he deserved the W against john and at least one pac fight

maybe you don't agree; but its about the majority that matters

[PrBoxing88]

In 140 pounds back them Cotto would of have beat Jmm and he still beats him atm...

[soul_survivor]

the Naz fight wasnt offered to him until after he lost in a crappy fight against norwood

probably not the best time to take it

so pac hitting JMM while he was down didnt warrant a point being taking away?

its boxing stuff like that happens

For the most part people believe he deserved the W against john and at least one pac fight

maybe you don't agree; but its about the majority that matters

wtf?

Pac wasn ot deducted nay points, it's not up to the judge to do teh referees job. And you say stuff happens yet complain Marquez lost a tight fight? GTFOH

[The Akbar One]

Marquez and it's not even close.

Marquez dismantled Pacquiao better than anybody ever did. He beat Casamayor and trumped Juan Diaz twice in two very good scraps. He beat a man's body until the poor fool threw up in his corner.

Cotto just doesn't have many great wins outside of Mosley maybe. The Martinez thing was lucky all the way around. His comeback win against Torres was impressive and a lot of fun, but still, what else did Torres do? It's like Gatti's win over Rodriguez- very entertaining, but who was Wilson Rodriguez? He's been in big fights but usually lost- Pac, Mayweather, Canelo.

I think Marquez has this all day long.

I agree Marquez and it isn't close. Cotto had to resort to low blows to defeat Judah, Corley, and Torres. Cotto's win over Mosely was also controversial. Cotto got the **** beat out of him by slow crude Margarito. A top level guy doesn't lose to Margarito. Cotto also got a controversial win over Clottey.

[therealpugilist]

Lets take a closer look at two of the best fighters of this era Cotto and JMM.

Miguel Cotto (40-5) 4 division Title holder Lineal at 160

Notable wins Judah, Mosley, Margarito rematch, Martinez (Lineal Champ)
Losses Margarito, Pac, PBF, Trout, Canelo

Juan Manuel Marquez (56-7-1) 4 division Title holder Lineal at 135

Notable wins Gainer unification, MAB, Casamayor (Ring or Lineal Champ), Juan Diaz 2x unification, Pac
Losses Norwood, John, Pac 2x, PBF, Bradley

marquez.....more skills....took more risks and been in some classics


the wins over MAB and Manny makes it a lot clearer

[The Akbar One]

Cotto got handled clearly by Trout. If Martinez wasn't shopworn and on a bum wheel he KO's Cotto. Cotto would get whooped by any of the young 154 pounders.

[bigdunny1]

Marquez and it's not even close. But if they fight right now Cotto beats the shyt out of him, younger, healthier, bigger, stronger.

[bigdunny1]

Easy. Marquez is the better fighter. He never took a knee like Kneeguel Cotto. He destroyed Pacquiao, something Cotto can only dream about. He took his loses like a real man, unlike Diva Cotto who ran off the ring all emotional claiming victories when everyone else didn't.

I agree with everything except takes loses like a real man. The man has literally cried over every loss. He is literally up there for worst loser in boxing. Both guys act like babies every time they lose.