I consider Haye Bellew a NO CONTEST

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  • The Ox
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    #41
    Originally posted by *OG Wenger*
    No way would a scouser defend a ****ney against one of their own.

    You've exposed yourself here, mate.
    Haye over Bellew any day, Bellew is low life scum.

    Oh and you're Irish and follow the England team instead ffs

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    • soul_survivor
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      #42
      Originally posted by kafkod
      There have been numerous examples of fighters injuring themselves just by moving around the ring, or swinging and missing. I've never seen or heard of any that were ruled NC or technical draw, unless there was some infringement of the rules.

      What happened to Haye was "within his control" because he was moving of his own volition .. he wasn't pushed, tripped or wrestled over.

      If there had been water on the canvas - as when Kovalev twice slipped in the rematch with Pascal - then he might have claimed "circumstances beyond his control"

      As it was doe, he wouldn't have had a leg to stand on with a claim like that, lol.
      I honestly don't think the acilles ripping is under Hayes control.

      But its a tedious point. I honestly think an injury like that should lead to a stoppage of a fight and then a consultation of the scorecards.

      I think Hopkins had a TD didnt he when he was accidentally pushed by a ref?

      Anyway, it doesnt matter much since Haye wanted to continue.

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        #43
        That's simply not how no-contest rules work.

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        • Robbie Barrett
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          #44
          Originally posted by kafkod
          Haye wasn't winning the fight easily, dumbo. He may have been ahead on the cards after 5 rounds - I don't know about that, because I haven't seen them - But Bellew was obviously focused on defence and biding his time till then.

          Even before the injury, I noticed Bellew was starting to step in with his punches in the 6th and looked to be sharing or even winning that round.
          He was winning the fight easily. It's OK you predicted Bellew would come on late and he did BECAUSE HAYE'S LEG ****ED UP BY ITSELF. Now you want to claim you're some boxing expert. Bellew got lucky, the whole world saw it.

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          • mrlopez
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            #45
            Originally posted by Sadio Mane
            The injury was not a result of any action from Bellew, he 'won' by default. This is a no contest in my mind.
            Thank god youre not a ref nor judge...

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            • kafkod
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              #46
              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              I honestly don't think the acilles ripping is under Hayes control.

              But its a tedious point. I honestly think an injury like that should lead to a stoppage of a fight and then a consultation of the scorecards.

              I think Hopkins had a TD didnt he when he was accidentally pushed by a ref?

              Anyway, it doesnt matter much since Haye wanted to continue.
              That was because he and his cornermen knew that if he didn't continue he would lose!

              BHop injured himself by falling out of the ring after being pushed by the ref. If he'd fallen out of the ring while moving under his own volition, without anybody touching him, he would have had 20 seconds to get back in, ready to carry on fighting, or take an L via TKO.

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              • kafkod
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                #47
                Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                He was winning the fight easily. It's OK you predicted Bellew would come on late and he did BECAUSE HAYE'S LEG ****ED UP BY ITSELF. Now you want to claim you're some boxing expert. Bellew got lucky, the whole world saw it.
                Bellew didn't get lucky, fool. He got his tactics spot on by staying on the move so Haye couldn't set his feet to throw big punches.

                Haye was crocked and his body couldn't take the strain of throwing punch after punch while off balance and chasing a moving target.

                Bellew told everybody that he would take Haye past 5 rounds and Haye would break down, and that's exactly what happened!

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                • Robbie Barrett
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by kafkod
                  Bellew didn't get lucky, fool. He got his tactics spot on by staying on the move so Haye couldn't set his feet to throw big punches.

                  Haye was crocked and his body couldn't take the strain of throwing punch after punch while off balance and chasing a moving target.

                  Bellew told everybody that he would take Haye past 5 rounds and Haye would break down, and that's exactly what happened!
                  Didn't get lucky?

                  That's exactly what he got. Everyone saw it, that injury had nothing to do with Bellew. He got lucky and now you want to claim you're some boxing expert.

                  He said Haye would gas. Haye didn't gas his achilles went, not the same thing.

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                  • jmrf4435
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Sadio Mane
                    The injury was not a result of any action from Bellew, he 'won' by default. This is a no contest in my mind.
                    You just cannot live with the fact Haye got his ass beat? I didn't know Haye fans were so loyal

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                    • NahMean
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                      #50
                      History is written.. doesn't matter what you class it. Haye shouldn’t have fought if he was injured, and if he wasn’t injured during the first half of the fight.. he still looked awful so lose lose situation for Haye.

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