3 PBC Fights, 3 Questionable Stoppages

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  • HanzGruber
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    #41
    Originally posted by BostonGuy
    Oh, so if you "stagger" now, the ref should call the fight? Washington was hurt but he was still in the fight. I stand by my statement: it was too quick a stoppage. The ref totally panicked

    That vid doesn't even show Washington falling into the ropes once they stopped it. He was done

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    • downklown
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      #42
      Originally posted by mlac
      that was actually really bad, washington looked fine after it was waved off, he didnt even go down for a 2nd time ffs.

      by the ref's logic, we should never have fights like izu breazeale, wave them all of after the 1st KD....

      Of course all the bum squad ******s will say ' omg u want washington to die??!?!!'

      ' he was gonna get sparked anyway '

      like it was a foregone conclusion that he was getting knocked out...total BS fanboyism. Washington was ahead and would STILL be ahead with a 10-7 round even IF he did get kd again...

      NO, Washington was out!!!! Stop with this nonsense.
      Go watch the ending on dailymotion...
      When the ref goes to restrain Wilder while he's throwing those wild shots at the end you'll see a stumbling Washington re-appear on the screen at which point the ref goes over to help him keep his balance. Dude was out on his feet.

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        #43
        Originally posted by downklown
        NO, Washington was out!!!! Stop with this nonsense.
        Go watch the ending on dailymotion...
        When the ref goes to restrain Wilder while he's throwing those wild shots at the end you'll see a stumbling Washington re-appear on the screen at which point the ref goes over to help him keep his balance. Dude was out on his feet.
        not sure if srs

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          #44
          Originally posted by BostonGuy
          Watching last night's PBC fights, I couldn't help but notice how poor the refereeing was last night. I haven't been following boxing too closely for the last 6-8 months so maybe this is the norm nowadays. Here's my take:

          Breazeale-Ugonoh - great heavweight scrap between two lower tiered fighters. Dom Breazeale is not the most agile, mobile and skilled fighter but he has always shown his grit, toughness and heart - he doesn't quit, and I like that about him. This is the first time i've seen Izu Ugonoh and he's a solid prospect that has a nice jab and throws good combinations and body punching.

          This fight was great; it was back and forth HW action with big punches being landed and some good knockdowns. However, as Breazeale knocked Izu down the second time in the 5th round, the referee automatically waived the fight off without even assessing his condition. Watching the fight in real time, Izu look like he was OK and able to get up. However the ref never gain him the chance.

          Hurd-Harrison - This was a good competitive fight where Harrison appeared to be winning the early-to-mid rounds based on his output and accurate punching. Credit to Hurd for making some adjustments and finding a way to land his much harder shots. He turned around the momentum of the fight, started walking Harrison down and pressing for the knockout.

          Also, in this fight i thought the ref did a poor job. After being knocked down, Harrison beat the count, responded to the refs questions and looked able to fight on. Harrison then unintentionally or intentionally spit his mouth piece out to the consternation of the ref and the fight was called off. Why was this? Harrison should have been docked a point but not TKO'd.

          Wilder-Washington - I've been a fan and apologist of Wilder's since he went pro but last night Deontay looked really awful. He was overly tentative and cautious and his punches looked constricted (maybe due to his muscular physique). Washington looked decent, to my surprise, but not any spectacular and there was never any doubt that Wilder would get his man outa there.

          Of the 3 fights, this was the worse stoppage by far. Washington was buzzed but at no point was he helpless or defenseless. Given that this was a title fight, Washington should have been allowed to fight on and survive the round. It was a total overreaction to stop this fight at that point.

          Thoughts/opinions? Am I totally off the mark or just in my criticism?
          All three of them, looked at individually, can have a case for the stoppages being fair. When looked at collectively, it does sway opinions towards questionable.

          Izu was done, he admitted himself later on that he was out of gas. Enough to stop the fight at that point? Maybe not. It was a really good scrap to watch - it's a shame it ended with any controversy. That fight deserved better.

          Harrison quit. If you're getting a count, and you look into the referees eyes and spit your mouthguard out, you're done. At worst, he was trying to trade a point for getting more time to recover - but if you're at the point where you're spitting it out just to get by, you shouldn't be allowed to get by. There was zero argument from Harrison about the stoppage.

          The Washington stoppage was strange. Maybe fair, I don't know. I haven't followed up to see what Washington has to say for himself.

          There are only two things I took out of yesterday - first, Wilder's technique is the worst I have ever seen from a HW champ.

          And second, judges still have absolutely no idea how to score a fight. Or they do know, but can be easily bought off.
          Last edited by KillaCamNZ; 02-26-2017, 05:17 PM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by BostonGuy
            Oh, so if you "stagger" now, the ref should call the fight? Washington was hurt but he was still in the fight. I stand by my statement: it was too quick a stoppage. The ref totally panicked
            You are a ****ing idiot.

            Watch this video: https://twitter.com/IM0Sports/status/835720074719870976

            It clearly shows that Washington was completely out on his feet, could not stand under his own power, and the ropes were the only thing that stopped him from falling out of the ring and seriously injuring himself.

            You honestly should be banned for being so ****ing ******.

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              #46
              Originally posted by boliodogs
              Of course the ref stopped the Wilder fight at the earliest opportunity. The wrong guy was winning the fight.
              You are a ****ing idiot.

              Watch this video: https://twitter.com/IM0Sports/status/835720074719870976

              It clearly shows that Washington was completely out on his feet, could not stand under his own power, and the ropes were the only thing that stopped him from falling out of the ring and seriously injuring himself.

              You honestly should be banned for being so ****ing ******.

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                #47
                Harrison quit and Washington was done..neither complained at all

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by mlac
                  that was actually really bad, washington looked fine after it was waved off, he didnt even go down for a 2nd time ffs.
                  You are a ****ing idiot.

                  Watch this video: https://twitter.com/IM0Sports/status/835720074719870976

                  It clearly shows that Washington was completely out on his feet, could not stand under his own power, and the ropes were the only thing that stopped him from falling out of the ring and seriously injuring himself.

                  You honestly should be banned for being so ****ing ******.

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                  • A.K
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                    #49
                    None of them were questionable homey couldn't even get up for the count in the first bout, Harrison went down clean and didn't want to continue he went strait to the hospital, and Washington was falling over and the ref had to grab him, all great work by the refs we don't want these guys getting additional brain damage , live to fight another day.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by original zero
                      You are a ****ing idiot.

                      Watch this video: https://twitter.com/IM0Sports/status/835720074719870976

                      It clearly shows that Washington was completely out on his feet, could not stand under his own power, and the ropes were the only thing that stopped him from falling out of the ring and seriously injuring himself.

                      You honestly should be banned for being so ****ing ******.
                      Another good angle

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