Can we all agree David Haye would completely ANNIHILATE Wilder?

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  • bboy80
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    #51
    Originally posted by Marchegiano
    Yes, you're right pal, I see your point....because David Haye and Eric Molina employ the same skill sets. I mean they're basically the same fighter except Haye's much better at it right? Eric is trying to fight like David he just isn't good enough....I get you....man that's some insight.

    I didn't question Haye's power or talents I questioned his formula. He lacks the skill set required to do anything to Wlad, Wilder, or Tyson.

    I really don't see what Eric Molina has to do with anything.
    Have to disagree with you there. Haye is an excellent technical counter puncher, the sparing vids have already proven Wilder would have serious trouble with him. Without that headgear on Wilder would of been saying night night for sure. Whilst im sure people will point out that was a few years back but, I don't think Wilder has improved his technique lol like at all..

    However thats pre-surgery, is Haye the same we don't know, but prob not. If he is anything like his old self he will dispatch of Bellew with ease next weekend. I'd love to see him in there with Wilder, I just don't think Wilder would want any part of it if im honest.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Wilder fought Breazele next.

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    • Sugar Adam Ali
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      #52
      Whoever lands first

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        #53
        Originally posted by bboy80
        Have to disagree with you there. Haye is an excellent technical counter puncher, the sparing vids have already proven Wilder would have serious trouble with him. Without that headgear on Wilder would of been saying night night for sure. Whilst im sure people will point out that was a few years back but, I don't think Wilder has improved his technique lol like at all..

        However thats pre-surgery, is Haye the same we don't know, but prob not. If he is anything like his old self he will dispatch of Bellew with ease next weekend. I'd love to see him in there with Wilder, I just don't think Wilder would want any part of it if im honest.

        I wouldn't be surprised if Wilder fought Breazele next.
        I forgot, about when was it Wilder sparred with Haye? Was that sometime around the Harrison fight?

        Wilder has without a doubt improved, y'all are looking for the wrong things. Everyone seems to want every boxer to fit the mold of hit and don't get hit pure boxing, but not everyone needs to run 52 blocks to avoid a punch ya get me?

        Wilder's whole posture has changed since then let alone how he's using his footwork, check hook, angles, and generalship.

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        • Poppo168
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          #54
          Originally posted by Marchegiano
          I'm saying footwork and positioning play a role before punches do.

          Wilder defends by moving which is all Wlad had to do against Haye. Wlad didn't even use upper body movement or many angles. He stayed right on the track because Haye's footwork wasn't good enough to get close enough to Wlad to make him switch tracks let alone hit him.



          Let coach Berry explain
          Yes, you're right pal, I see your point....because Wlad and Wilder employ the same skill sets. I mean they're basically the same fighter except Wlad's much better at it right? Wilder is trying to fight like Wlad he just isn't good enough....I get you....man that's some insight.


          ...

          Annoying huh :|

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            #55
            Originally posted by Poppo168
            Yes, you're right pal, I see your point....because Wlad and Wilder employ the same skill sets. I mean they're basically the same fighter except Wlad's much better at it right? Wilder is trying to fight like Wlad he just isn't good enough....I get you....man that's some insight.


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            Annoying huh :|
            I did say what Wlad used to beat Haye Wilder already practices.

            You don't need Wlad's full skill set and yes they do have overlapping skills. They both use variations of Big Man Game. That's not my wording, that's the name of the ****ing skill set. Learn it then tell me I'm wrong.

            Off you pop, search that **** out then tell me they're nearly as different as Haye and ****ing Molina.

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            • Poppo168
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              #56
              Originally posted by Marchegiano
              I did say what Wlad used to beat Haye Wilder already practices.

              You don't need Wlad's full skill set and yes they do have overlapping skills. They both use variations of Big Man Game. That's not my wording, that's the name of the ****ing skill set. Learn it then tell me I'm wrong.

              Off you pop, search that **** out then tell me they're nearly as different as Haye and ****ing Molina.
              Alright don't get emotional bud, Wilder doesn't have the defence to keep Haye off & the chin to survive the 12 rounds. I'm well aware of the size comparison & the ability to use this, you'll see what I'm talking about if the fight ever happens.

              We all know it won't though as Wilder will duck anyone of note.

              Have a nice evening pal.

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              • RussB23
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                #57
                D-Dub would wreck him inside 2.

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                • bboy80
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Marchegiano
                  I forgot, about when was it Wilder sparred with Haye? Was that sometime around the Harrison fight?

                  Wilder has without a doubt improved, y'all are looking for the wrong things. Everyone seems to want every boxer to fit the mold of hit and don't get hit pure boxing, but not everyone needs to run 52 blocks to avoid a punch ya get me?

                  Wilder's whole posture has changed since then let alone how he's using his footwork, check hook, angles, and generalship.
                  Wut...

                  [IMG]https://media.*****.com/media/llxvEjfJ9X1rq/*****.gif[/IMG]

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                  • FrankieBruno
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                    #59
                    Haye will land and Wilder will go down like a concrete slab in water

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                    • iamboxing
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Poppo168
                      I can see why he didn't fight Shannon, if he beats him 'so what he's old & shot' if he loses then his career is over. Literally no up side for limited money.

                      Haye is back for money & that's all.
                      Yep, he's getting hate for fighting Bellew, which is a mismatch, so you can imagine the stick he'd get for fighting a pensioner like Briggs. As for WIlder...no. Power is too much for Haye to handle.

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