Can we all agree David Haye would completely ANNIHILATE Wilder?

[Poppo168]

Criminy.....No, Haye's not his biggest threat. Wlad beat Haye using Big Man Formula. Wlad didn't even have to apply half the skill set. I'm Fairly certain Wilder can walk him down, throw a few jabs, side step and throw the right too. Wilder might even take it a step farther and use *gasp* upper body movement to bring Haye into a world of hurt.

No, Haye is not a threat to Wilder, Wlad, or Tyson. He's a threat to JP and AJ though.

If Molina can heavily rock Wilder then Haye will always be a danger to him

[hhs661]

With a Good toe he will knock Wilder out, hell I think Andy Garcia will beat Wilder

shout out to Andy G

[boliodogs]

They are both big punchers with average chins. Whoever gets big punches in first will probably score a KO. Haye has much better all around skills and defense. Haye would be the likely KO winner in my opinion. If Wilder lands a Sunday punch first he could win but that isn't likely. Haye survived a much younger Wlad who was a lot better and more dangerous than today's Wilder.

[Marchegiano]

If Molina can heavily rock Wilder then Haye will always be a danger to him

Yes, you're right pal, I see your point....because David Haye and Eric Molina employ the same skill sets. I mean they're basically the same fighter except Haye's much better at it right? Eric is trying to fight like David he just isn't good enough....I get you....man that's some insight.

I didn't question Haye's power or talents I questioned his formula. He lacks the skill set required to do anything to Wlad, Wilder, or Tyson.

I really don't see what Eric Molina has to do with anything.

[Poppo168]

Yes, you're right pal, I see your point....because David Haye and Eric Molina employ the same skill sets. I mean they're basically the same fighter except Haye's much better at it right? Eric is trying to fight like David he just isn't good enough....I get you....man that's some insight.

I didn't question Haye's power or talents I questioned his formula. He lacks the skill set required to do anything to Wlad, Wilder, or Tyson.

I really don't see what Eric Molina has to do with anything.

I'm saying if Molina who is much much slower than Haye & isn't as powerful can catch Wilder clean then Haye won't have a problem at all.

You said 'Haye isn't a threat to Wilder' so I was giving an example of a C rated fighter who was dangerous to Wilder in hope that you'd realise Wilder is in danger against anyone until he fixes his defence.

[Scipio2009]

Just imagine that windimilling idiot who has the skills of a neanderthal trying to overwhelm a master counterpuncher like Haye that way. Wilder is just begging to get countered with such pathetic technique and sloppy wide punches, too bad the stiffs he choses as opponents don't have the skills nor the balls to even try it

Haye also has plenty of power to boot, unlike the abysmal bums Wilder loves to fight (on short notice, so they dont even get a proper training camp, I might add)

Haye utterly humilliated Wilder in a sparring session once, for good reason.

So can we all agree that Wilder will take a nice canvas nap if he dares to fight the Hayemaker? (which we know he won't, since Haye is dangerous and Wilder doesn't fight those kind of opponents)

Haye hasn't shown the ability to get inside that 83" reach, and Wilder has shown the ability to dead any fighter with one shot.

Wilder was a novice fighter when he sparred Haye; if you're really hanging your hat on that, you're a fool

[Bigg Rigg]

Wilder didn't look too good lastnIght but he has power.

[PRINCEKOOL]

It would still be a 50/50 fight due to David Haye not having Evander Holyfield's punch resistance! David Haye is allot tougher than people credit him for, but Deontay Wilder's power is still a serious danger....

If you rush Deontay Wilder, his punches seem to lose their power! and this is a skill that David Haye is very good at implementing! Wilder's power shots mostly happen, when his opponents are standing off him trying to box....

In a fight up against Deontay Wilder? Would just keep ambushing him, in a guerrilla type warfare (It will be a messy fight, with both guys stumbling all over the place! both guys are very ballistic in their athletic abilities which enables them to fight in this manner! you only have to take a look back at their sparring future to perceive what i am stating)....

The fight could be the heavyweight version of Prince Naseem Hamed vs Kevin Kelly.

Note: I would be supporting David Haye as always...

[Marchegiano]

I'm saying if Molina who is much much slower than Haye & isn't as powerful can catch Wilder clean then Haye won't have a problem at all.

You said 'Haye isn't a threat to Wilder' so I was giving an example of a C rated fighter who was dangerous to Wilder in hope that you'd realise Wilder is in danger against anyone until he fixes his defence.

I'm saying footwork and positioning play a role before punches do.

Wilder defends by moving which is all Wlad had to do against Haye. Wlad didn't even use upper body movement or many angles. He stayed right on the track because Haye's footwork wasn't good enough to get close enough to Wlad to make him switch tracks let alone hit him.



Let coach Berry explain

[Madison Boxing]

yeah, funnily enough wilder doesnt mention hayes name much after their sparring sessions...