Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: GGG Can Fight Canelo or Keep Making What He Makes!

[Verus]

What? How dense are some of you people? Yes, it is technically true; he offered PPV upside & that's never been in debate. It's about the specifics!

Let's say it's a 65-35 split, which might actually be fair to both sides, but the split only kicks in after the first million buys! That's the f-n upside! It's why they offered a flat fee, with some possible incentives. Wake the hell up people!

Oscar - "Look, if they’re not happy with the deal, then it’s not on us. The deal is there. He would make the most money ever against Canelo and if you really want the fight, I mean, Canelo’s not running from nobody"

DLH (or anyone for that matter) can make any ridiculous claim they want & say the balls in Gennady's court! Until the specifics of the PPV split are agreed upon, there is no fight! No one is going to budge from their position until after they each fight & their bean counters can analyze the data. End of story.

Agreed! At this point, we are looking through a glass darkly. I am still interested in K2's reaction.

[bronx7]

Same thing Floyd told manny take 40 mil flat fee or no fight he held out and made $100 mil canella is A side deserves 60/40 split but no flat fee

[thack]

Poor Oscar, he used to make some sense before he lost the plot....such a shame

[Scipio2009]

And Canelo can fight GGG, or keep making what he makes selling 200k PPVs instead of selling millions with GGG.

Alvarez-Chavez Jr is going to sell well more than 200k PPV buys, Alvarez-Cotto 2 will sell well more than 200k PPV buys, and Alvarez-Chavez Jr 2, were that to happen, would sell well more than 200k PPV buys.

Alvarez-Smith sold over $5m in tickets at JerryLand; if MGM Resorts is not interested, Alvarez vs TBA, at this point, will likely move $5m+ at the gate, and that's before counting any Mexico money (or splitting the back-end of the pot). nice try.

If Golovkin doesn't fight Alvarez, there's not another PPV fight out there for him, and you know it.

Alvarez vs TBA can basically put $10m into Alvarez's pocket for every fight.

[Scipio2009]

Damn damn damn.. I kind of dislike both fighters for the stance that them and their teams are taking in making this fight. This is not comparable to May-Pac whatsoever. The flat fee is BS, but it's not like it wouldn't be ggg's best payday ever. IDK.. I'd like to see a estimated revenue in terms of what this fight would make in gate, ppv, etc etc and see how that looks in regards to the flat fee offer.

pretty much peg it to between the Amir Khan fight and this coming Chavez Jr fight; $8m-$9m at the live gate, 700k-800k PPV buys, etc.

Golovkin getting $15m on the fight is a pretty drastic overpayment, imo.

[JASON SHAW]

For the 100th time Al Haymon loves ****ing ********. No one said that he is one

http://articles.latimes.com/1998/nov/26/sports/sp-47970

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-charges-for-de-la-hoya/

SO SORRY TO BURST YOUR ****** BUBBLE.....

[Scipio2009]

At 1st I was on Canelo's side....when he won the belt from Cotto...Cotto made the decison to come down to 155 or whatever the catch-weight was...Cottos fault for losing the belt...

Since that victory, Canelo has said I'm not a MW..I'm a 154 pounder. And thats why he stood firm on GGG coming down to fight him.

But now that Canelo is going up to fight Chavez...what happened to the you're a 154 pounder?? You can fight 1 guy at the weight but not GGG?

Oh He scared. Or knows that L is more possible fighting GGG and wants a big ass piece of cake if he loses.

It's a catchweight fight between two guys who've been eyeballing each other, with no championships on the line (beyond national pride); the camps came together , determined a weight that made sense, and made the fight.

Alvarez has never fought above 155lbs, Alvarez made it clear that he didn't care about that middleweight belt, and Golovkin and his camp have been running their mouth about 154-168 for years now.

Why can't Golovkin fight Alvarez at 155lbs? he gets to continue on with his "unify the division" bull****, and he'd actually have a meaningful fight to go along with that. Not that difficult.

Rather than try to make the deal, Golovkin refused to fight at anything below 160lbs, and his camp is insisting on a Cotto-type share on the event (the only way a fighter who's never made $4m on a fight wouldn't even lay out a number, imo, is because he's likely asking for a near 50/50 share on the whole event, lol). gtfoh

[koolkc107]

Alvarez-Chavez Jr is going to sell well more than 200k PPV buys, Alvarez-Cotto 2 will sell well more than 200k PPV buys, and Alvarez-Chavez Jr 2, were that to happen, would sell well more than 200k PPV buys.

Alvarez-Smith sold over $5m in tickets at JerryLand; if MGM Resorts is not interested, Alvarez vs TBA, at this point, will likely move $5m+ at the gate, and that's before counting any Mexico money (or splitting the back-end of the pot). nice try.

If Golovkin doesn't fight Alvarez, there's not another PPV fight out there for him, and you know it.

Alvarez vs TBA can basically put $10m into Alvarez's pocket for every fight.

That's the point, isn't it?

The Charlos are out there.

Andrade is out there.

Middleweights like Saunders and Lee are still out there.

None of them are Lil g.

Some of them, like Cotto, Jr., and (longshot) Pac are even more lucrative than Lil g.

ALL OF THEM ARE PAYDAYS.

All of them are good to great paydays.

Who does Gennady fight if he can't get Canelo?

Who puts 10 to 15 million in Golovkin's pocket?

Even another 5 million?

Who?

[hugh grant]

How about paying GGG what he wants, rather than what you want?

[justblaze813]

Damn Oscar is ****ting on ggg lol