The Definition of a "Robbery"

[The D3vil]

After Ward/Kovalev, it seems as if everytime a fight fan's favorite fighter loses, somebody starts with the "R" word, which is useless at this point.

So, to clarify, there is no such thing as a "robbery" that was a close fight, meaning in a 12 round fight, a fight where a fighter did not win 8 rounds decisively.

Ward/Kovalev could not be a robbery, regardless of the outcome because neither fighter won a DEFINITIVE 8 rounds out of the 12.

You could argue that Ward won 4 definitively, Kovalev won 4 or 5 definitively, and the rest were up to interpretation.

THAT is not a robbery.

What we saw this weekend with Adrian Broner getting the decision against Adrian Granados, wasn't a robbery either, even if you think that Granados should have won, because there's no way that either fighter in that 10 round fight won 7 rounds DEFINITIVELY.

Robberies are predicated on somebody basically annihilating their opponent for 10 or 12 rounds and definitively winning the overwhelming majority of the rounds and yet still losing or getting a draw.

Bradley/Pacquaio I is the epitome of a robbery. I've watched the fight 3 times and each time I have Pacquiao winning 9 or 10 rounds definitively. No way in hell should that have been anything but a blowout win for Pac.

Julio Cesar Chavez/Pernell Whittaker is another Obvious robbery.

Can some of the "serious" fight heads, please school some of these youngsters on some true robberies in boxing

[Furn]

If the fighter you wanted to win loses by decision.

Thats a robbery.

[Sadiqkingofko]

Walters-Sosa is a prime example of a robbery, Walters won every round but it was ruled a draw

[New England]

i think it's pretty simple. if you can't make a coherent argument that a fighter scored enough points to get the W, and he gets the W, it's a robbery.

[-GDS-]

Do people consider Oscar vs Tito to be a robbery? Borderline probably.

[The Big Dunn]

From a boxing perspective a robbery is a fight where one man clearly wins a lopsided fight but the opponent is given a draw or the win.

On NSB certain posters call it a robbery anytime someone named Ward, Floyd or Broner pulls out a close win no matter who the opponent is.

Sweet Pea v Ramirez is a robbery. Ward kov isn't a robbery.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Robberies are predicated on somebody basically annihilating their opponent for 10 or 12 rounds and definitively winning the overwhelming majority of the rounds and yet still losing or getting a draw.

This statement contradicts the next.

Bradley/Pacquaio I is the epitome of a robbery. I've watched the fight 3 times and each time I have Pacquiao winning 9 or 10 rounds definitively. No way in hell should that have been anything but a blowout win for Pac.

Do you understand why Bradley even got close to beating Manny, much less beating him? It's quite simple, and anyone who really watched it saw the same.

In 7 of the rounds Manny basically didn't show up until like the last minute of the round. The first two, he was coasting and largely inactive. Tentative. It's the same thing that cost him the fight against TBE.

This is a guy who literally swarmed Miguel Cotto. Who danced around Margacheato. Where was that guy?

That fight wasn't a robbery. It was a joke - because Manny didn't show up.


Now, let's see some REAL robbery examples.

Soto/Lorenzo 1
Lewis/Holyfield 1
Broner/Malignaggi
Lara/Williams
Garcia/Hererra

Hopkins/Calzaghe (arguably)

Only the last one is debatable. The rest are CLEAR examples of robberies. Especially Lara/Williams. There's simply no other answer on that one.

[therealpugilist]

On NSB a robbery is when a fighter you want to win a fight loses, regardless of how ridiculous it sounds.....thread/

[HarvardBlue]

I must say boxing is getting better at disguising their robberies. You could tell by the commentary who they're favoring. Then there is the skewed compubox stats. Probably the only real robberies I saw in the last few years was Lara/Williams followed by a distant Garcia/Herrera.

[Elroy The Great]

That fight wasn't a robbery. It was a joke - because Manny didn't show up.

were you not around to witness the reverberations the pac timmy dec caused ?!?!?!? google ''boxings biggest robberies'' or ''boxings worst decisions''.

there are some who, conveniently say, compubox is a joke. take the info as you please....

http://compuboxonline.com/compubox-stats-bradley-w-12-pacquaio/

pac vs timmy was indeed an epic robbery.