Would boxing be better with less divisions?

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  • -Freddy-
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    #21
    GGG's resume would still be ****.

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    • The D3vil
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      #22
      Well yeah, most of these divisions didn't exist until like the 1970s anyway.

      And also, this idea that size is the biggest factor in who wins a fight is absurd. Guys have beaten much larger opponents for years Jess Willard who was 6'6" and 245lbs & Primo Carnera 6'5" & 265lbs were two of the worst heavyweight champions in history and were getting beat down by guys like Jack Dempsey, who was 6ft and 190lbs.

      Look at how Chagev beat the **** out of Valuev who was 7 feet tall and 300lbs.

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      • Pigeons
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        #23
        10 divisions please:
        Heavy
        Cruiser
        Light Heavy
        Middle
        Welter
        Light
        Feather
        Bantam
        Fly
        Straw

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        • boliodogs
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          #24
          Actually 6 pounds is a big gap compared to some other weight classes. 105 to 108 is 3 pounds, 108 to 112 is 4 pounds. 112 to 115 is 3 pounds. 115 to 118 is 3 pounds, 118 to 122 is 4 pounds. 122 to 126 is 4 pounds and 126 to 130 is 4 pounds. I would redo all the weight classes if I ran boxing, No smaller classes would be closer than 6 pounds and there would be a larger difference between heavier weights. I would start at 106 and go 112 to 118 to 125 to 132 to 139 to 147 to 156 to 166 to 177 to 189 to heavyweight. Nothing special about my weights but that would bring it down to 12 weight classes with no huge gaps and no classes right on top of each other. I eliminated the 200 pound weight class because good 200 pounders always go up to full heavyweight anyway.

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          • Ryan8777
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            #25
            Originally posted by original zero
            Cruiserweight was 190 for years. It was moved to 200 in hopes of making the division more marketable. It's always struggled to gain acceptance, especially in the US.

            Heavyweight = unlimited. The real division with the real #1 fighter in the world. "Super heavyweight" has never made any sense because how do you have super unlimited? And if there's a weight limit, it's not really heavyweight then. That's one of the problems with MMA having a weight limit at heavyweight, it means you never actually find out who the best in the world is.

            Humans continue to evolve though, and it's possible a Super Cruiserweight division could become necessary at some point. If every top heavyweight in the world is eventually 275 pounds, then Super Cruiserweight with a limit of 225 would make sense.
            You make some good points, maybe super cruiserweight would be more beneficial for big cruiserweights and small heavyweights. I think there has to be a change. A big cruiserweight moving up could be outweighed by 30+ lbs by a natural heavyweight, that's far too much weight to give away and dangerous. Maybe super cruiserweight would become marketable. In theory it would eliminate the jab and grab style which turned many casual fans away from boxing.

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            • jas
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              #26
              reducing divisions would force the best fighters to fight each other but this can be done by reducing the amount of belts down to 1

              1 champ per division. 1 publicised, reliable and accurate set of rankings for each division

              we cant even stop catchweights, never mind divisions. there are also safety elements to consider by having more divisions.

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              • ////
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                #27
                No divisions within 10 lbs of each other and no sanctioning for catchweight bouts.

                When we started having divisions 3 lbs apart it stopped being about "fair fights" and turned into a starvation contest. You can void 3 lbs in a single piss.

                Now we are at decimals thanks to Canelo/Chavez. Chavez will literally be doing stuff like trimming off his excess sideburns and toenail length to make weight. VS a chunky middleweight spending the peak of his career at "155".

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                • NEETzsche
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                  #28
                  Absolutely. I think there should be 12 divisions evenly distributed between ~110 and ~215 lbs

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                  • Zaroku
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                    #29
                    Less divisions would be good. PAC, Floyd and others would have less titles. I think there are too many divisions now. Too many sanctioning bodies too.

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ////
                      No divisions within 10 lbs of each other and no sanctioning for catchweight bouts.

                      When we started having divisions 3 lbs apart it stopped being about "fair fights" and turned into a starvation contest. You can void 3 lbs in a single piss.

                      Now we are at decimals thanks to Canelo/Chavez. Chavez will literally be doing stuff like trimming off his excess sideburns and toenail length to make weight. VS a chunky middleweight spending the peak of his career at "155".
                      You piss 1.5 litres?

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