Is there a man born from his mother that can beat tyson fury?

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  • billeau2
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    #41
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
    David Haye made Wladimir Kiltschko miss constantly with his jab and straight right hands! i think you are severely underestimating David Haye! Tyson Fury is a awkward fighter, his style will confuse the text book fighters! But David Haye is not a text book fighter, and his style is not easier to negate...

    I don't think Tyson Fury has the power to deter David Haye, you only have to watch how Waldimir Kiltschko was marching forward!
    With the exception of an older Monte barrett who has Haye fought with boxing and movement skills? The guys he beat are all pretty one dimensional including Klitsko. Haye stays away from skilled boxer punchers for a reason. Didn't Carl Thompson at 40 years old out box him also? Yeah he did! I forgot about that one.

    Fury can box, Haye really can't do much but slug it out. Fury may be many things but he has boxing skills and is not a stationary target that can be ambushed at will.Haye has a punch and he always has a punchers chance I will give that to your analysis.

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    • W1LL
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      #42
      Haha! That "isn't a man born from his mother..." speech reminds me of Ray Lewis. It sounded cool in the moment and created some hype. But when you look at what he said it doesn't make a lot of sense.

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      • Motorcity Cobra
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        #43
        Originally posted by NaijaD
        A lot of these guys picked Wlad to win that fight, I did too!.... it's amazing how that victory now amounts to Wlad being shot, as if they didn't know he was 39 pushing 40 before they made their predictions.

        Before the fight: "Fury got dropped by Cunningham, Wlad will knock him out"

        After the fight: "That motherfcka Wlad was old, he was OLD!!"
        Because he looked old I that fight. Fury was there to be hit and Wlad couldn't pull the trigger. He pulled it one time in the 12th and connected flush. I don't want to hear nothing about movement. Lesser fighters than War have been able to touch Fury. They both connected on less than 10 punches a round. Was Wlad also moving so much Fury couldn't touch him?

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        • NaijaD
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          #44
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
          Because he looked old I that fight. Fury was there to be hit and Wlad couldn't pull the trigger. He pulled it one time in the 12th and connected flush. I don't want to hear nothing about movement. Lesser fighters than War have been able to touch Fury. They both connected on less than 10 punches a round. Was Wlad also moving so much Fury couldn't touch him?
          Because Fury respected Wlad's power, are you going to pretend that he fought Cunningham the same way he fought Wlad?? Are you going to pretend he hadn't gained more experience between those fights, look at the Chisora rematch..... Delboy couldn't touch him. Fury can be elusive when he wants to be.

          Don't give me this BS of Wlad looking old, did you forget how old he was before the fight?

          So Wlad only threw one right hand the whole fight and it happened to be the only one that landed?? Stop being childish man. Fury was a 4/1 underdog entering that fight, I can't recall any Klitschko opponent having those kind of odds since Haye. Usually his opponents are like 20/1 to win. The bookmakers obviously factored in Wlad's age along with Fury's boxing ability and height and reach advantages.

          .... If Golovkin looks out of sorts and loses against Jacobs, do you think it will be fair for people to claim that he got old overnight like they don't know Golovkin will be 35 at the time of the fight and basically strip Jacobs of the rightful credit he deserves. The answer is no, you'll take up the position I'm occupying now. You didn't give Fury a chance before the fight so don't try and strip him of the credit he deserves now.

          People did the same thing when Floyd fought Mosley, they were predicting KO victories for Shane and then after the fight they were giving excuses like "Shane was old, he was 38.... he couldn't pull the trigger, he hadn't fought in over a year" ..... like you didn't know those things before the fight happened.

          If you think a fighter is old then factor it into your prediction BEFORE the fight, don't use it as an excuse AFTER the fight.
          Last edited by NaijaD; 02-10-2017, 04:35 PM.

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          • PRINCEKOOL
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            #45
            Originally posted by billeau2
            With the exception of an older Monte barrett who has Haye fought with boxing and movement skills? The guys he beat are all pretty one dimensional including Klitsko. Haye stays away from skilled boxer punchers for a reason. Didn't Carl Thompson at 40 years old out box him also? Yeah he did! I forgot about that one.

            Fury can box, Haye really can't do much but slug it out. Fury may be many things but he has boxing skills and is not a stationary target that can be ambushed at will.Haye has a punch and he always has a punchers chance I will give that to your analysis.
            Who is retired now? and out of boxing shape at the age of 28? David Haye or Tyson Fury? yes the answer is Tyson Fury! I don't think David Haye would be avoiding Tyson Fury these days, if the fight was called for!

            You can bring up the past all you want (We can play these games all day mate!) and i will then bring up the present.........

            Is Tyson Fury a boxer puncher or something? he could hardly deter Wladimir Kiltschko from moving forward in their fight, and people within boxing circles stereotype Waldimir Kiltschko as a timid fighter! (Tyson Fury is a good fighter, but for the share size of him and speed of punch? his power is lacking)...

            And your statement that David Haye is a slugger? is 1 million miles from the truth! he hardly gets busted up, that is why outside of boxing is fully coherent business wise!

            Stylistically i just don't think Tyson Fury, has enough power to deter David Haye! (And if you cannot deter a big puncher, at some point in the fight? you are getting hit hard)...

            Note: But i wish Tyson Fury all the best in his recovery in life as a man, and he is a good fighter!

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            • VatoMulatto
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              #46
              In boxing "You're only as good as your last fight". Fury beat Wlad convincingly and now he's unbeatable. I wonder what people said about Buster Douglas after his KO victory over Mike Tyson. If Internet was a thing back then there would probably be tons of threads about a motivated Buster Douglas is unstoppable.

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              • Pigeons
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                #47
                Tyson Fury is a fookin bum.

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                • SensFullViolenc
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                  #48
                  I always thought Fury threw punches like bumfights. Someone mentioned combinations...umm, he's always so off-balance when he throws, he has to reset. I rarely see effective combos from him.

                  I will say tho, he has very light feet for a man his size. I faulted Wlad for fighting like a statue. In retrospect, I must credit Fury's movement for a lot of Wlads inability to pull the trigger.

                  If he had better boxing ability, with his range & movement, he could be great. But he is sloppy af.

                  That being said, I'd like to see more of AJ & Ortiz. I could see either of these dudes beating him. Maybe Wilder.

                  I guess we'll know more about AJ after the Wlad fight

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by New England
                    point is that he's far from the perfect HW, and he was born from his mother by all accounts, and he was |---| close!


                    if steve cunningham can come that close, a HW with an actual punch certainly has a shot at doing the deed.
                    Did you ever figure out who stole your fat forum girlfriend?

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                    • TOBYLEE1
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by VatoMulatto
                      In boxing "You're only as good as your last fight". Fury beat Wlad convincingly and now he's unbeatable. I wonder what people said about Buster Douglas after his KO victory over Mike Tyson. If Internet was a thing back then there would probably be tons of threads about a motivated Buster Douglas is unstoppable.
                      The only post in this thread that makes sense

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