Comments Thread For: Canelo Says Golovkin Given Good Offer, Not Being Reasonable

[HeroBando]

I can't remember when there has been a mega fight and the fighter has taken a flat fee.. Anyone know when the last time that has happened? This is a question, I'm a neutral party..

Even bums like Chavez and Khan get upside. That's cause Canelo wants those fights made, unlike this

[Robbie Barrett]

Even bums like Chavez and Khan get upside. That's cause Canelo wants those fights made, unlike this

Khan got $6 mil, Chavez said he'll make $6 mil, Golovkin has been offered $15 mil.

[Scipio2009]

30% of just U.S. ppvs.

of course Canelo is keeping all the mexican money.

I said what I said. This is prizefighting and, in the money conversation, there's nothing to talk about.

Alvarez-Khan did $7.5m at the gate in Las Vegas. Alvarez-Smith did $5.5m at the gate in Arlington. Golovkin's biggest gate ever (though no one has ever even hinted at confirming the number beyond taking Tom Loeffler's word for it) was maybe $2m.

Golovkin only has the one PPV to compare anything to, but look at the US (non-Mexico) business that Alvarez has been able to draw for his headlining shows.

15%-20% of the US (non-Mexico) revenues is about what would actually be fair economic considerations, and even that may actually be too generous.

[HeroBando]

Khan got $6 mil, Chavez said he'll make $6 mil, Golovkin has been offered $15 mil.

Khan was told it could be up to 13m with upside. Unfortunately the ppv was a dud, little upside. It's only fair, if Canelo GGG underperforms GGG should make less that 15, but if not, he might make more. You follow, ******? Now get lost, loser

[HeroBando]

I said what I said. This is prizefighting and, in the money conversation, there's nothing to talk about.

Alvarez-Khan did $7.5m at the gate in Las Vegas. Alvarez-Smith did $5.5m at the gate in Arlington. Golovkin's biggest gate ever (though no one has ever even hinted at confirming the number beyond taking Tom Loeffler's word for it) was maybe $2m.

Golovkin only has the one PPV to compare anything to, but look at the US (non-Mexico) business that Alvarez has been able to draw for his headlining shows.

15%-20% of the US (non-Mexico) revenues is about what would actually be fair economic considerations, and even that may actually be too generous.

Why do you bother? You think anyone takes your comical projections seriously? You know you're usually off by a factor of 3, at least

[Scipio2009]

How is asking for a PPV split asking for "The horn and the moon?"

Because, if Golovkin and his camp view $15m as a non-offer, imagine how much of the event they're actually asking for in private, lol. With HBO blowing smoke up his ass, and Golovkin thinking that all of his trinkets carry value, it wouldn't shock me if K2 was asking for 40%-45% of the pot.

Golovkin's biggest purse before the offer was the $3m-$4m fee that he got to fight at the O2, yet Alvarez offers 5 times that and K2 calls that "the start of the talks"? gtfoh.

Alvarez has given up share on his events for two fighters; Mayweather and Cotto. Golovkin is nowhere near that level of starpower.

[HeroBando]

Because, if Golovkin and his camp view $15m as a non-offer, imagine how much of the event they're actually asking for in private, lol. With HBO blowing smoke up his ass, and Golovkin thinking that all of his trinkets carry value, it wouldn't shock me if K2 was asking for 40%-45% of the pot.

Golovkin's biggest purse before the offer was the $3m-$4m fee that he got to fight at the O2, yet Alvarez offers 5 times that and K2 calls that "the start of the talks"? gtfoh.

Alvarez has given up share on his events for two fighters; Mayweather and Cotto. Golovkin is nowhere near that level of starpower.

They're not asking for more, they're asking for upside, dummy. Could be more, could be less, it's the norm for the biggest fight in boxing. Canelo got upside on both of those fights, even if the gap in starpower was far greater for Floyd vs Canelo than here.

[Robbie Barrett]

They're not asking for more, they're asking for upside, dummy. Could be more, could be less, it's the norm for the biggest fight in boxing. Canelo got upside on both of those fights, even if the gap in starpower was far greater for Floyd vs Canelo than here.

Canelo walked away from that Mayweather fight with $13 mil. Upside, downside, flat fee all comes down to one thing, how big is the cheque. The $15 mil cheque being offered is huge for a guy that makes 2-3 mil.

[Scipio2009]

If Golovkin loses to Jacobs will GBP even bother for this fight?

Saunders won'T fight Jacobs. Saunders rather fight Alvarez and lose the strap for another title shot a different day, or even move up to 168 and fight Eubank Jr.

Alvarez vs Chavez Jr. May
Alvarez vs Saunders Sep
Alvarez vs Jacobs Dec

if Chavez Jr. loses only way the rematch happens is at 168. Chavez Jr. can go for Zurdo's strap. Lots of money come forward

If Golovkin loses to Jacobs, "Miracle Man" Daniel Jacobs heads back to Brooklyn with the original three middleweight belts and another big scalp on his ledger; Haymon and Oscar won't even bother with the fight.

Saunders still has to fight Khurtsidze, but if he gets passed that, he'd be looking at a sizable flat fee to fight Alvarez or a likely good split offer (in the sense that Saunders keeps the UK TV rights and a taste off of the live gate, while Jacobs gets his own from the gate, the US TV, and the other international deals) for Jacobs; Alvarez is still likely the better money option, but he's got choices.

In the end, Jacobs ends up cycling through mandatory defenses and challengers as the come up (for Showtime/PBC), while Alvarez defends his WBO/lineal middleweight title on HBO (limiting the options to middleweights who fight for GBP, TR, ME, and K2; deal offered to Golovkin, as a challenger, will be worse).

[Scipio2009]

golovkin made around $8 million for the brook fight.....

Source or get the **** outta here with that nonsense. If Golovkin was really generating that type of money, the $4m ask from Billy Joe Saunders would've been easy business, lol.