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Originally posted by keith_head View PostIt is remarkable that Dave Allen claims to never have been tested. It's one thing being enrolled for 365 day testing but they have to actually do the testing for it to count.
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Originally posted by Jaqen H'ghar View Post@sixheadz @eddiehearn @monteroonboxing @nextbigpod UKAD don't even test for Growth Hormone which seems to be the 'in' PED in UK Boxing
— Danny Robson (@DannyRobsonLFC) January 30, 2017
@EddieHearn @MonteroOnBoxing Dave Allen who's been on 4 of your shows has never been tested once. Sort it out. UKAD are a joke.
— NextBigPod (@NextBigPod) January 30, 2017
@DBO187 @EddieHearn umm no. I could care less about UKAD, my question was about VADA specifically. Was just a question, not an accusation.
— Michael Montero (@MonteroOnBoxing) January 30, 2017
I dont know if true or the ins and outsbut thats what Hearn said
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostNot doing PED testing is an issue. However, why do we spend more time discussing rumors, allegations, and speculation rather than discussing actual positive tests, like Povetkin and Warwyck (sp)?
I hope in the future fans of fighters don't use fake PED speculation simply as a preemptive strike against a fighter who likely beats the guy that poster loves.
Stuff like that is childish.
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Originally posted by Scott. Weiland View PostYou think the Fury doping test is fake ?
What I was referring to is Jagen H'gar/Freedom/Tunney's insinuation that Joshua is on roids. While he lists reasons that seem plausible, he is really only doing this as a preemptive strike against Joshua should he beat Wlad, a guy he loves. I have noticed bigdramashow do this with Jacobs.
I just hope this disgraceful trend stops,
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Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View PostHe's doing Vada like Klitschko for the fight. When's your boy Lomachenko going to do any testing? Why don't you call him out?
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Originally posted by KillaCamNZ View PostThe problem is, testing is always one step behind doping. And any spin about "not being able to beat the system" these days is just drip fed bull**** put out there by the companies that are tearing their hair out because they can't catch up.
There's a reason why we see so many Olympic medals stripped retroactively, due to re-testing done and finding things that they didn't find at the time. So, so many athletes from Athens, Beijing and London have had their samples from that time, pop dirty years later.
I don't believe it's any different now - we'll see a bunch of Rio medalists stripped in the same way. And the mainstream media only runs the stories on the medalists getting caught - not those outside the top 3. Sometimes they don't run them at all.
And, let's be honest, no one is re-testing Klitchko samples from 10 years ago. He could have pissed designer ethanol and we'd never know.
Athletes have been dirty since the day they found out they could get an advantage.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostNo, not at all.
What I was referring to is Jagen H'gar/Freedom/Tunney's insinuation that Joshua is on roids. While he lists reasons that seem plausible, he is really only doing this as a preemptive strike against Joshua should he beat Wlad, a guy he loves. I have noticed bigdramashow do this with Jacobs.
I just hope this disgraceful trend stops,
Though I feel this fight may be too late in Wlad's career I also feel it may actually make the fight actually more intriguing, no way would I give a green Joshua a shot over Wlad, with Wlad clearly in decline I see this a genuine 50/50 now though a dangerous one.
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Originally posted by joe strong View PostThis is a good post. I remember during the steroid era in baseball a few years back there was a list of 101 players who failed tests but thy never released it. There was a doctor who discussed new testing procedures compared to the old days & he said if they actually released the list of 101 names & others samples they tested from the past they would be rewriting the history books of the sport. It is pretty hard to cheat nowadays but there will always be something that will keep the cheaters one step ahead...
Advancements in the medical field are phenomenal, really interesting stuff. Gone are the days when if you were juicing, you were on Stanzolol. Or if you needed an upper (especially in Baseball), you'd take greenies. Nowadays, there are an incredible amount of designer steroids being created to circumvent testing - and that's only the ones we know about.
It's scary to think just how many record books would have to be re-written in sport if we knew who doped. And it's just as scary to think, we'll probably never know.
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Originally posted by KillaCamNZ View PostIs that the Mitchell Report?
Advancements in the medical field are phenomenal, really interesting stuff. Gone are the days when if you were juicing, you were on Stanzolol. Or if you needed an upper (especially in Baseball), you'd take greenies. Nowadays, there are an incredible amount of designer steroids being created to circumvent testing - and that's only the ones we know about.
It's scary to think just how many record books would have to be re-written in sport if we knew who doped. And it's just as scary to think, we'll probably never know.
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