Comments Thread For: Roach: It Was a Terrible Decision, Cotto Deserves Canelo Rematch

[rrayvez]

I'm a big fan of Roach, but c'mon Freddy. Cotto clearly lost and took some hard hard shots. In fact the damage from that fight probably puts Cotto at gatekeeper level. If Kirkland hurts him, it could be sad to watch.

cotto has taken way more damage in several other fights than he did vs Canelo. Canelo never really hurt or wobbled him, he was just the bigger man. Cotto took more punishment in wins vs Corley and Torres than he did vs Canelo.

[rrayvez]

Still begging for that rematch and still cant accept that outside himself, Cotto and his dumb ass fanboys that they lost that fight. No wonder they get along so well, they live in denial. Pathetic.

I don't think cotto won but the fact is that TV Azteca scored the fight for cotto, so did Barrera, Chavez Sr, Fernando vargas, and nacho berenstain. Marquez and mikey Garcia scored it a draw. All Mexicans/Mexican Americans. So it's not just cotto and his fans who thought he won.

[CubanGuyNYC]

I'm starting to lose respect for Roach by the way, even as someone who likes Pacquiao (who didn't like Pacquiao? He fought everyone). But it seems like Roach is just about money lately. Pushing Pacquiao to fight Canelo. Lying about a "terrible decision" with Cotto just to push for the Canelo rematch. Why not just say it was close and you want a rematch? That's more understandable Cotto's trainer would say, both for legacy and money, to get another shot. But flat out lying about a "terrible decision" just to push this rematch no one else wants to see before GGG-Canelo? Come on that is ridiculous.

Well said, my good man.

[CubanGuyNYC]

I don't think cotto won but the fact is that TV Azteca scored the fight for cotto, so did Barrera, Chavez Sr, Fernando vargas, and nacho berenstain. Marquez and mikey Garcia scored it a draw. All Mexicans/Mexican Americans. So it's not just cotto and his fans who thought he won.

Seriously, man. All those guys are boxing savants compared to me, but there's no one in this world that can tell me that fight was even close. Canelo clearly won. That's all there is to it.

[Derranged]

Cotto won four rounds at most and he's well past it now. A rematch would be pointless.

[rrayvez]

Seriously, man. All those guys are boxing savants compared to me, but there's no one in this world that can tell me that fight was even close. Canelo clearly won. That's all there is to it.

Canelo won but I think the judges having it 11 rounds to 1,10 - 2 and 9-3 was a bit too generous. Just like I thought Canelo beating Lara 9 rounds to 3 on a card, or him beating trout 10 rounds to 2 or him having a draw scored vs Floyd were all overly generous. If you take the most lopsided scorecard from each of the 3 wins vs cotto, Lara and trout, the judges scored it 30 rounds to 6 for Canelo. That's crazy to me.

[jonnyc420]

I don't think cotto won but the fact is that TV Azteca scored the fight for cotto, so did Barrera, Chavez Sr, Fernando vargas, and nacho berenstain. Marquez and mikey Garcia scored it a draw. All Mexicans/Mexican Americans. So it's not just cotto and his fans who thought he won.

Also fair to mention most of the names mentioned are not fans of Canelo at all and have always been critical of anything he does. I think it has to do mainly with his popularity and treatment he has received in boxing.

[rrayvez]

Also fair to mention most of the names mentioned are not fans of Canelo at all and have always been critical of anything he does. I think it has to do mainly with his popularity and treatment he has received in boxing.

it could be because they see him as someone who's received favorable treatment while his boxing skills in my opinion aren't superior to any of the boxers that I mentioned. Or maybe they preferred the more active boxer over the bigger and stronger slugger. Who knows, but point being is people who do know boxing seemed to consider it more competitive than what the judges had it.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Canelo won but I think the judges having it 11 rounds to 1,10 - 2 and 9-3 was a bit too generous. Just like I thought Canelo beating Lara 9 rounds to 3 on a card, or him beating trout 10 rounds to 2 or him having a draw scored vs Floyd were all overly generous. If you take the most lopsided scorecard from each of the 3 wins vs cotto, Lara and trout, the judges scored it 30 rounds to 6 for Canelo. That's crazy to me.

On this I can agree. I don't remember how I scored it, but I think it was on the order of 8-4 Canelo. Whatever it was, it wasn't close, but it wasn't as low as three rounds for Cotto either. As has been suggested, all those Mexican/Mexican-Americans that had the fight for Cotto probably have an axe to grind with Alvarez. I don't see any other reason. There's no way a competent, unbiased judge could score that fight for Cotto. Just like no sane judge could've possibly had Mayweather-Alvarez anything other than a lopsided decision for Floyd.

[icha]

it could be because they see him as someone who's received favorable treatment while his boxing skills in my opinion aren't superior to any of the boxers that I mentioned. Or maybe they preferred the more active boxer over the bigger and stronger slugger. Who knows, but point being is people who do know boxing seemed to consider it more competitive than what the judges had it.

Fighters arent always good judges, if im not mistaken there was about 30 unofficial scorecards from media ringside, you know the guys that actually do that every weekend, and out of those 30: 1 (lamazon) had it for cotto, 1 (spacetv) had it draw and the rest had canelo winning...
Fight was closer than the official scores but it was a clear win for canelo...